, Hi to all Bahai here ,  i m a Sikh

I once discussed Abt  Sikhi and Bahai Faith With my frnd KALZERA ,   i wanna learn  more abt your lovely faith .

Hi World Citizen ,

Thanks for your post !

i read " Seven vally n Four Valleys "   ,  wonderful n peaceful  .

i earlier read "Kittab e Aqdas "  indicates the Abrahmic nature of This lovely faith .

my question  same as that of thread starter " Bahai s view of Sikh Guru sahib "

 as i was told that Bahais consider  very limited no of Prophets namely Abraham ,Jesus , Mohammad ,  .....  Baha -u-llah .  and Prophet came after 1000 years .

can you provide reliable source related  .

Any way do you intentionally changed Ting ling to Singling ?

May 3, 2010 -- 1:41PM, world citizen wrote:

Welcome Singling!

First, please accept my apology that you have had to wait almost a full day for a response.  There are not too many Baha'is that visit Beliefnet daily but, when they are here, you will find they are very knowledgeable of the Baha'i Faith.

Because there is so much to say about Baha'u'llah's wondrous teachings, most visitors to this forum have already done a bit of reading and tend to ask questions of a specific nature.  May I suggest that you visit our international website first?  Depending on your particular interest(s), you'll find many different areas of the Faith to investigate.

Given that you are a Sikh, you might prefer to delve into some of the mystical writings of Baha'u'llah (especially 'The Seven Valleys and the Four Valleys').  For this I recommend the Baha'i Reference Library, where you will also find writings of the other Central Figures of the Baha'i Faith.

Please return and share some of your thoughts with us and ask any possible questions you might have concerning anything you have read.

Namaste, WC

 

Hi World citizen !

you know every male Sikh name  end with Singh , thats why i thought  you intentional used Sing instead of Ting 

Just as there are many inspired "holy books" around the world that did NOT arise from the appearance of a Manifestation of God (e.g., Bhagavad Gita, Bible, Qurán), my personal belief is that the Guru Granth Sahib would fall into this category -- inspired but not Divinely revealed.  There is absolutely nothing in the Baha'i Writings that refer either to 1) this book as being among the past's Sacred Scriptures, or 2) Guru Nanak Dev as being among the Prophets of God.

i feel from your answers that  " Guru Granth Sahib and Sikh Guru "are not Divine relevation acc to Bahai s  bcoz they are not Mentioned  by Baha u llah . OK ?

moreover  BGita is not written by Krishna

Surprizing to know about Prof Pritam singh ,  He studied at Khalsa college Amritsar ,WOW my college and  his burial at Amritsar , i m excited to visit that place .

Hi World Citizen !

Actually you are equating Prophet With Guru , Guru means a TEACHER  Not a Prophet  of Abrahmic sense  who is seated with Mr  GOD in heavens and allot heaven to One N Hell to other s . Guru is ONE with ONE

ਸਮੁੰਦੁ ਵਿਰਲਿ ਸਰੀਰ ਹਮ ਦੇਖਿਆ ਇਕ ਵਸਤੁ ਅਨੂਪ ਦਿਖਾਈ ॥
Churning the ocean of the body, I have seen the incomparable thing come into view.


ਗੁਰ ਗੋਵਿੰਦੁ ਗਵਿੰਦੁ ਗੁਰੂ ਹੈ ਨਾਨਕ ਭੇਦੁ ਨ ਭਾਈ ॥
The Guru is God, and God is the Guru, O Nanak; there is no difference between the two, O Siblings of Destiny:       GURU GRANTH SAHIB 

The Manifestations of God, lesser prophets, and past Scriptures are often mentioned in the Baha'i Writings.  There is even mention of Manifestations of God who would have predated history, although They are given no names.

Could Guru Nanek have been a lesser prophet following Muhammad?  Possible but highly unlikely, since Muhammad's revealed al-Qur'an preceded Nanek's teachings by less than one century.  Does the Guru Granth Sahib contain any fulfilled prophesies?  Does it contain laws for mankind to follow that abrogate laws of al-Qur'an?  Are its basic teachings parallel to those found in ALL the Sacred Texts of God (e.g., the "Golden Rule")?  Does it continue in some fashion the progressive Revelations of God or confirm history of the past Prophets?  These would be the evidences of a Divinely revealed Book as compared with inspirational writings.

 Its unbelievable to me that Bahai Scripture   mentioned all Prophets and Divine Scriptures BcoZ Guru Nanak  Says  ...

ਕਵਣੁ ਸੁ ਵੇਲਾ ਵਖਤੁ ਕਵਣੁ ਕਵਣ ਥਿਤਿ ਕਵਣੁ ਵਾਰੁ ॥
What was that time, and what was that moment? What was that day, and what was that date?


ਕਵਣਿ ਸਿ ਰੁਤੀ ਮਾਹੁ ਕਵਣੁ ਜਿਤੁ ਹੋਆ ਆਕਾਰੁ ॥
What was that season, and what was that month, when the Universe was created?


ਵੇਲ ਨ ਪਾਈਆ ਪੰਡਤੀ ਜਿ ਹੋਵੈ ਲੇਖੁ ਪੁਰਾਣੁ ॥
The Pandits, the religious scholars, cannot find that time, therefore not written in the Puraanas.


ਵਖਤੁ ਨ ਪਾਇਓ ਕਾਦੀਆ ਜਿ ਲਿਖਨਿ ਲੇਖੁ ਕੁਰਾਣੁ ॥
That time is not known to the Qazis, who study the Koran.


ਥਿਤਿ ਵਾਰੁ ਨਾ ਜੋਗੀ ਜਾਣੈ ਰੁਤਿ ਮਾਹੁ ਨਾ ਕੋਈ ॥
The day and the date are not known to the Yogis, nor is the month or the season.


ਜਾ ਕਰਤਾ ਸਿਰਠੀ ਕਉ ਸਾਜੇ ਆਪੇ ਜਾਣੈ ਸੋਈ ॥
The Creator who created this creation-only He Himself knows.


ਕਿਵ ਕਰਿ ਆਖਾ ਕਿਵ ਸਾਲਾਹੀ ਕਿਉ ਵਰਨੀ ਕਿਵ ਜਾਣਾ ॥
How can we speak of Him? How can we praise Him? How can we describe Him? How can we know Him?



ਨਾਨਕ ਆਖਣਿ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਆਖੈ ਇਕ ਦੂ ਇਕੁ ਸਿਆਣਾ ॥
O Nanak, everyone speaks of Him, each one wiser than the rest.


ਵਡਾ ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਵਡੀ ਨਾਈ ਕੀਤਾ ਜਾ ਕਾ ਹੋਵੈ ॥
Great is the Master, Great is His Name. Whatever happens is according to His Will.


ਨਾਨਕ ਜੇ ਕੋ ਆਪੌ ਜਾਣੈ ਅਗੈ ਗਇਆ ਨ ਸੋਹੈ ॥੨੧॥
O Nanak, one who claims to know everything shall not be decorated in the world hereafter.

May 6, 2010 -- 4:52PM, world citizen wrote:

Hello again Tingling!

i feel from your answers that  " Guru Granth Sahib and Sikh Guru  "are not Divine relevation acc to Bahai s  bcoz they are not Mentioned   by Baha u llah . OK ?

The Manifestations of God, lesser prophets, and past Scriptures are often mentioned in the Baha'i Writings.  There is even mention of Manifestations of God who would have predated history, although They are given no names.

Could Guru Nanek have been a lesser prophet following Muhammad?  Possible but highly unlikely, since Muhammad's revealed al-Qur'an preceded Nanek's teachings by less than one century.  Does the Guru Granth Sahib contain any fulfilled prophesies?  Does it contain laws for mankind to follow that abrogate laws of al-Qur'an?  Are its basic teachings parallel to those found in ALL the Sacred Texts of God (e.g., the "Golden Rule")?  Does it continue in some fashion the progressive Revelations of God or confirm history of the past Prophets?  These would be the evidences of a Divinely revealed Book as compared with inspirational writings.

moreover BGita is not written by  Krishna

Nor did Jesus write the New Testament or Muhammad write the Qur'an.