| 5 years ago :: Jul 05, 2008 - 12:15AM #1 | |
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Same old questions that are probably all over these forums. I'll ask some questions, and I'll go and read all the other threads to get some answers (complementing the answers I get here). Thx for answering the same old questions. ;)
1) Is pantheism the belief that everything is God? EVERYTHING? 2) If so, then is there sin, karma, Good vs Evil, etc.? 3) If not, then what is God? Is there a God? 4) What's panantheism? 5) What religions are pantheist? 6) What are the differences in the way the religions view pantheism? I want to ask more questions, but I'll learn about pantheism first, then ask more questions. Like I said, I'll read other posts to get some answers as well, but with my own thread I can ask whatever. Thx for the knowledge! |
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| 5 years ago :: Jul 19, 2008 - 12:00AM #2 | |
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2) If so, then is there sin, karma, Good vs Evil, etc.?
I really want enlightenment on this question. Thx. |
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| 5 years ago :: Jul 21, 2008 - 8:34PM #3 | |
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Hi,
There are no standard pantheistic answers to these questions; everyone views pantheism differently and there are different pantheistic faiths.
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| 5 years ago :: Jul 22, 2008 - 9:07PM #4 | |
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Pantheism is the belief that everything is God. Panentheism is the belief that everything is IN God. "In him we move and have our being."[/QUOTE] Personally I don't quite agree. For a lot of people, God has nothing to do with it. There is no God or god or gods in the equation. |
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| 5 years ago :: Jul 24, 2008 - 5:19PM #5 | |
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[QUOTE=KARD9000;642192]Personally I don't quite agree. For a lot of people, God has nothing to do with it. There is no God or god or gods in the equation.[/QUOTE]
pan·the·ism [pan-thee-iz-uhm] –noun 1. the doctrine that God is the transcendent reality of which the material universe and human beings are only manifestations: it involves a denial of God's personality and expresses a tendency to identify God and nature. 2. any religious belief or philosophical doctrine that identifies God with the universe. -http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pantheism I'm afraid we must have conflicting ideas on what Pantheism is. As the dictionary states, to the Pantheist, God (not BibleGod, but the Divine nonetheless) is everything. You must be something else.
Churchianity, by substituting creed for Christ and dogma instead of the divine facts of being, has stripped Love of her royal robes and has left her standing an unheeded beggar in the universe of God. - Rev. W. John Murray
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| 5 years ago :: Jul 24, 2008 - 8:48PM #6 | |
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Dictionaries are nice but they don't determine how or what a person believes.
There are other threads in this forum where people express what pantheism means to them. For quiet a few of us it has nothing to do with any god. There is a thread, which I believe is a sticky, with excellent resouces you might want to consider looking into. |
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| 5 years ago :: Jul 25, 2008 - 6:01AM #7 | |
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Thanks for the recommendation Kard. I especially enjoyed http://www.pantheist-index.net/Publications/utne.html . I am a Divine Scientist, so I hope you realize when I say "God" I don't mean an individual, personal deity. No offense is meant.
Churchianity, by substituting creed for Christ and dogma instead of the divine facts of being, has stripped Love of her royal robes and has left her standing an unheeded beggar in the universe of God. - Rev. W. John Murray
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| 5 years ago :: Aug 01, 2008 - 2:02AM #8 | |
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I read up on some of the pantheism stuff. I was just wondering, is anyone on this board a classical pantheist? Or are they mostly Hindus, and hence would be at that forum? Besides Hindusim, what other "classic" religions are pantheistic?
Thx for al the help! |
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| 5 years ago :: Nov 06, 2008 - 3:10PM #9 | |
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I think the lynchpin of the misunderstanding or disagreement is the idea of 'God' having a personality... The anthropomorphic projection onto 'God' of a human personality and the awareness to be either pleased or angry, contented or jealous/insecure is a hallmark of the Abrahamic Religions.
I feel the 'God without a personality' is a bit risky of a term b/c of the inherent Entity-hood which is generally associated with 'God'. The removal from the concept of a personality from God means not only a personality as in that which characterized one's state of mind or attitude or predispositions, but also "person-hood", as in an entity with definite shape and location.... to remove the entity/person-hood of an anthropomorphized God leaves one, I feel, with the classic Greek concept put forth by Empedocles: “The nature of God is a circle of which the center is everywhere and the circumference is nowhere.” but also without any Judgment or even point of view in relation to what transpires in the Universe. What do you think?
What Fatal Flowers of Darkness Bloom from Seeds of Light!
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| 5 years ago :: Nov 06, 2008 - 6:39PM #10 | |
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[QUOTE=TigersEyeDowsing;646987]Thanks for the recommendation Kard. I especially enjoyed http://www.pantheist-index.net/Publications/utne.html . I am a Divine Scientist, so I hope you realize when I say "God" I don't mean an individual, personal deity. No offense is meant.[/QUOTE]
That's why some of us use a small "g" :) No offense taken, I understand. Most of the pantheist's I talk to do not associate any god with their beliefs. |
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