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5 years ago  ::  Jun 29, 2008 - 4:01AM #1
alanmoorefan
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Hi,
I was reading about Yazid the other day, and it seems that nobody likes the guy.  Is he considered to be a Muslim by most Muslims?  Both the Shiites and Sunnis seem to carry a very low opinion of the man.  That’s why I am feeling a bit of Sympathy of him right now.  It seems like the one thing all Muslims agree on is that Yazid, was not a good guy.
However playing Devil's advocate here, isn't Husain suppose to get some blame here, he did go into the city that his Grandfather prophesized his death at!  Also why should Husain be considered to be the Caliph solely for being the Prophet's grandson?  Yes I am aware Yazd’s father was Caliph, but both reasons are absurd.
Sorry I didn't mean to offend anyone, I read about Yazid and felt sorry for the guy, nobody likes him.
Thanks
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5 years ago  ::  Jun 29, 2008 - 3:08PM #2
Ali_Mahdi
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Tragedy of Karbala

The events of Karbala reflect the collision of the good versus the evil, the virtuous versus the wicked, the collision of Imam Husayn (the head of virtue) versus Yazid (the head of impiety). al-Husayn was a revolutionary person, a righteous man, the religious authority, the Imam of Muslim Ummah. As the representative of his grandfather Prophet Muhammad (S), Imam Husayn’s main concern was to safeguard and protect Islam and guide fellow Muslims. On the other hand, the staying power of the rulers (Mu’awiyah and his son Yazid) depended solely on the might of the sword. They used brute force to rule over the Muslim empire even by all possible illicit means. Imam Husayn as head of Ahl al-Bayt (AS) never recognized Mu’awiyah nor his followers. Before him Imam ‘Ali (AS) had fought battles against Mu’awiyah because Mu’awiyah continuously violated the Islamic principles. Imam al-Hasan (AS) had to swallow the bitter pill of making a peace agreement with Mu’awiyah, in order to safeguard the security of the Ummah which was at stake. When Yazid son of Mu’awiyah declared himself as a ruler over the Ummah, he demanded Imam al-Husayn’s (AS) allegiance of loyalty. Imam Husayn on his part flatly rejected Yazid’s rule and behaviour, for there was no way Yazid could represent Islam, it would be blasphemy. But Yazid, the tyrant ruler over the Ummah, was adamant in his demand, and tension between the two parties increased day by day. Imam Husayn was quick to realize that giving allegiance of loyalty to Yazid would serve no purpose but to jeopardize the survival of Islam. To safeguard and protect Islam, therefore, the Imam had no choice but to confront and collide with Yazid’s rulership irrespective of consequences. Since Yazid had ordered his commanders to seize the Imam’s allegiance of loyalty at any cost, even by brutal force, the commanders had to assemble a relatively large army, surrounding Imam Husayn’s camp in a desert called Karbala. Then they cut off the basic necessities to the camp, including access to water. The camp consisted of Imam Husayn, his family, friends, and companions, all of whom stood fast and firmly with him. These braves would rather face death for the noble cause of Islam, than submit to the outrageous tyranny and the un-Islamic ways of Yazid. Thus, Karbala proved to be a clash involving Islamic truths versus falsehood, right versus wrong, belief versus disbelief, the oppressed versus the oppressor, faith against brute force. Karbala was about standing in the face of oppression, regardless no matter the cost. Thus, in Karbala, al-Husayn the 57 year old grandson of Prophet Muhammad (S), sacrificed his totality and all he had, for one goal. This goal was to let the truth triumph over falsehood eventually, and he did that brilliantly. His goal was to foil the plan that Mu’awiyah had expertly developed for his son, Yazid, which was to establish a permanent Bani Umayyah rulership over the Muslim Ummah (even by sacrificing the Islamic principles), but doing it in the name of Islam. Brilliantly, Imam Husayn succeeded in foiling this plan and he exposed the disreputable nature of Bani Umayya though this was at the expense of his life.
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5 years ago  ::  Jun 29, 2008 - 3:11PM #3
Ali_Mahdi
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Yazid’s Demand for Allegiance

In 50 AH when Imam Hasan (AS) was poisoned, the duty of Imamat became the responsibility of his younger brother Imam Husayn (AS). At the time, Mu’awiyah ibn Abu Sufyan, the governor of Syria and arch-enemy of the family of the Holy Prophet (S), was virtually the ruler of the whole Muslim Empire. Mu’awiyah, who had caused the poisoning of Imam Hasan (AS), continued to disregard the human rights of the people and employed gangs of criminals to terrorise them. Imam Husayn (AS) was not frightened by the power of Mu’awiyah, and openly condemned him and criticised his actions in his letters, warning him against the punishment of God.

Mu’awiyah broke the conditions of the treaty he had signed with Imam Hasan (AS) and declared his evil son Yazid as Caliph. In 60 AH, news was conveyed to Walid, Yazid’s governor in Madinah, about the death of Mu’awiyah. At the same time, Yazid sent orders to Walid to demand the oath of allegiance (Bay’at) from Imam Husayn (AS). The orders stated that if Imam (AS) refused, his head should be cut off and sent to Yazid in Damascus.

On receipt of the letter of Yazid, Walid sent his servant to Imam (AS), requesting a meeting. It was night time and Imam (AS) was in the mosque when Walid’s servant found him. When the servant informed him that Walid was calling him, he at once exclaimed that Mu’awiyah was dead. He then sent word to Walid that it was late and he was in the mosque, and that he would visit him the next morning.

When Imam (AS) returned home to his family with the news of his invitation by the governor, they were very worried. His sisters Zaynab (AS) and Umm Kulthoum (AS) asked him to take along the youth of Bani Hashem, especially ‘Abbas (AS), for protection. Imam (AS) was reluctant to take any one along, saying that he had been invited alone. He finally agreed to allow some of the Hashemite youth, including his brother ‘Abbas (AS) and his son ‘Ali Akbar to accompany him.

When they reached the Government House the next morning, Imam (AS) asked the men to remain at the door, and only to come in if they heard his voice become unusually loud.
Walid was well aware of the position of Imam (AS) and greeted him with respect and offered him a seat beside him. He then read out the letter he had received from Yazid, and when he reached the part about sending the severed head of Imam (AS) if he refused to pay allegiance, he was too embarrassed to continue and handed over the letter to Imam (AS) to read.

Imam (AS) read it and smiled and said: “Oh Walid, invite the Muslims of Madinah tomorrow and ask them if they say I should pay allegiance to Yazid, and then let us decide.”

Walid accepted this reply, but Marwan, the old enemy of Islam who the Holy Prophet (S) had expelled from Madinah, said, “Do not let Husayn out of your grip now. If the fox gets out of the four walls of your court you will not see it again. Cut off his head here and now and do not let this opportunity pass or you will not get it again.”

When Imam (AS) heard these insulting words of Marwan, he put his hand on his sword and said aloud, “Oh enemy of God, will you or Walid touch my head?” On hearing the raised voice of Imam (AS), the young men of Bani Hashem burst into the court room. ‘Abbas (AS), who was well known for his skill in combat, had already drawn his sword. Imam (AS) managed to calm the boiling blood of his companions and averted a situation which would have certainly resulted in a blood bath. The shaken and cowardly Marwan took advantage of Imam’s (AS) mercy and quickly ran away from the scene.

Imam (AS) flatly refused to pay allegiance to Yazid, well knowing that such an action would leave Islam and the Muslims in ruins. His famous answer to the governor of Yazid was, “A man like me can never give allegiance to a man like him.”

After this confrontation the life of Imam (AS) was in danger, and with a heavy heart he began to plan to leave Madinah, the city of his beloved grandfather.
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5 years ago  ::  Jun 29, 2008 - 3:13PM #4
Ali_Mahdi
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Zaynab’s (SA) Speech in Front of Yazid

Oh Yazid, practice any trick you can and do anything that you think would vanish Islam, but you should know that you can not eradicate our message, path and memory. You should know that our memory will never die.

Yazid recited the blasphemous poetic verses of ‘Abdullah ibn Zab’ari Sahmi which he had composed while he was an unbeliever and also added some poetic verses of his own and said openly that he wanted to take revenge upon the descendants of Muhammad because Muhammad and his companions had killed his polytheist ancestors.

Zaynab, the daughter of ‘Ali rose and began speaking. She added a new chapter to the history of the Caliphate of Yazid which covered a period of three years and a few months, and said: “Oh Yazid! God and His Prophet have said that committing sins and considering the signs of God to be false is ridiculing them,” i.e. deny the sign of God today and hold them in derision and have become happy, and recite poetic verses on account of the martyrdom of the children of the Holy Prophet just as the polytheists of Makkah became happy and sang songs because of the martyrdom of some Muslims in the Battle of Uhud, and talk about taking revenge upon the Holy Prophet. This is how you become like them and how you have reached this stage? You have reached this stage because you have committed too many sins. Whoever treads the path of sin and persists in committing sins will, according to the verdict of the Quran, deny the signs of God one day and eventually will ridicule them and then deserve Divine punishment.

She added: “Oh Yazid! Do you think that we have become humble and despicable owing to the martyrdom of our people and our own captivity? As you have blocked all the paths for us, and we have been made captives and are being taken from one place to another, do you think that God has taken away his blessings from us? Do you think that by killing the godly persons you have become great and respectable and the Almighty looks at you with special grace and kindness? For this reason and on account of this wrong thinking you have become elated and arrogant. You have become boastful because you have seen that the matters have taken a turn in your favour. You have, however, forgotten what God says: The disbelievers must not think that Our respite is for their good We only give them time to let them increase their sins. For them there will be a humiliating torment.” (Surat Aale ‘Imran, 3:178)

Then Zaynab reminds Yazid that his grandmother and other relatives came into the fold of Islam only after the fall of Makkah at the hands of the Muslims. Since Makkah was taken without any war or bloodshed, legally the entire inhabitant could have been made the slaves of the Prophet. But the Prophet, out of his mercy, declared to the people of Makkah that ‘I release you from the bonds of slavery, you are free.’ In other words, Zaynab wanted Yazid to remember that his ancestors were the ‘freed slaves’ of her grandfather. Look at the courage of Zaynab! Standing as a prisoner in the court of Yazid, she does not hesitate to remind him of his reality.

She said, “Oh son of the freed ones! Is it justice that you keep your women and slave-girls in seclusion but have made the helpless daughters of the Holy Prophet ride on swift camels and given them in the hands of their enemies so that they may take them from one city to another.”

Then she said, “Why shouldn’t Yazid be spiteful against us, it is he, who looks at us with hostility. You say with perfect intrepidity and without imagining that you are committing a sin: ‘I wish that my ancestors who were killed in Badr had been present here today’. Then you strike Imam Husayn in his teeth with a stick in your hand! Why shouldn’t you be like this, although you have done what you wanted to do and have pulled out the roots of piety and virtue! You have shed the blood of the sons of the Holy Prophet and have hidden the brilliant stars on the earth from amongst the descendants of ‘Abdul-Muttaleb under the clouds of oppression and injustice. However, you shall go before God soon.

You shall meet your ancestors and shall also be taken to their place. At that time you will wish that you had been blind and dumb and had not said that it was a day of rejoicing for your ancestors.”

At this stage the daughter of Imam ‘Ali prayed to God and said: “Oh Lord! Procure our right and take revenge upon those who have oppressed us.”

Then she turned to Yazid and said: “By God you have pulled off your skin and cut off your flesh. You will soon go before the Prophet of God and will see with your own eyes that his children are in Paradise. It will be the day when God will deliver the descendants of the Holy Prophet from the state of being scattered and will bring all of them together in Paradise. This is the promise which God has made in the Holy Quran. He says: Do not think of those who are slain for the cause of God as dead. They are alive with their Lord and receive sustenance from Him. (Surat Aale ‘Imran, 3: 169)

Oh Yazid! On the day when God will be the Judge and Muhammad will be the petitioner, and your limbs will give evidence against you, your father, who made you the ruler of the Muslims, will receive His punishment. On that day it will become known what reward the oppressors earn, whose position is worse and whose party is more humble. Oh enemy of God and Oh son of the enemy of God! I swear by God that I consider you to be humble and not fit even to be reprimanded and reproached. But what am I to do? Our eyes are shedding tears, our hearts are burning, and our martyrs cannot come to life by our reprimanding and reproaching you. My Husayn has been killed and the partisans of Satan are taking us to the fools so that they may get their reward for insulting God. Our blood is dripping from their hands and our flesh is falling down from their mouths. The sacred bodies of the martyrs have been placed at the disposal of the wolves and other carnivorous animals of the jungle. If you have gained something today by shedding blood, you will certainly be a loser on the Day of Judgment. On that day nothing but your deeds will count. On that day you will curse ibn Marjanah and he will curse you. On that day you and your followers will quarrel with one another by the side of the Divine scale of Justice. On that day you will see that the best provision which your father made for you was that he enabled you to kill the children of the Prophet of God. I swear by God that I do not fear anyone except Him and do not complain to anyone else. You may employ your deceit and cunning efforts, but I swear by God that the shame and disgrace which you have earned by the treatment meted out to us cannot be eradicated.”

The daughter of Fatemah az-Zahra ended her speech with offering thanks to God. She said: “I thank God Who has concluded the task of the chiefs of the youths of Paradise with prosperity and forgiveness and accommodated them in Paradise. I pray to God that He may elevate their ranks and favour them more with His kindness, for God is Omnipotent.”
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5 years ago  ::  Jun 29, 2008 - 3:14PM #5
Ali_Mahdi
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What the Sunni Scholars Have Said about Yazid (LA)

We begin with what Shaykh ‘Abdullah Saleh Farsi says in his book, “Biography of Sayyed Husayn,” on page 40: “As we saw earlier, Yazid’s succession was established by force and contrary to the wishes of the people.” What needs to be asked is: Is it possible that although his succession was “by force,” he himself is exculpable? Is it permissible in Islam for one to rule over Muslims as Amir al-Momenin on the basis of force and “contrary to the wishes of the people?”

Similar statements have been made by Shaykh Muhammad ‘Abdouh. In his exegesis of the Holy Quran, known as Tafsir al-Manar, commenting on chapter 5:36-37 (page 367, volume six), this Shaykh brands Yazid as “an oppressive and tyrannical leader, who conducted the affairs of Muslims with force and deceit.” Does he deserve to be addressed as Amir al-Momenin?

Our third source is ‘Allamah Shawkani who, in his book on the Traditions of the Prophet, called “Nayl al-Awtar” (in chapter seven, page 362) characterizes Yazid as “pathological drunkard, and violator of the sanctified ordinances.” Yet he is Amir al-Momenin of the Wahhabis!

Our fourth source is Abul-Hasan ‘Ali ibn Muhammad ibn ‘Ali al-Tabari, a famous Shafe’i scholar, who, when asked about Yazid, among other things, called him “a notorious drunkard whose poetry in praise of liquor was of public knowledge.” This has been extracted from page 287 of chapter Three of ibn Khalekan’s “Wafayat al-A’yan.”
Fifthly, ibn Hazm, on page 98 of chapter Eleven of his book, al-Muhalla, has categorized Yazid ibn Mu’awiyah with those “who were secularist,” the thrust of whose policy was “oppressive and devoid of any legitimacy...” Can such a person claim the title of Amir al-Momenin?

The sixth source is Abul-Falah ‘Abdul-Hai ibn al-‘Imad, who is an eminent Hanbali scholar and who, on page 69 of chapter three of his famous book, “Shadharat adh-Dhahab,” quotes another famous scholar, Imam Dhahabi, to have said: “Yazid was hateful of Imam ‘Ali (AS), arrogant, insolent, wine-bibber and sinful. He initiated his kingship by murdering Husayn, and he sealed it with the incident of Harra. People hated him and he was not graced with a long life.” The incident of Harra here refers to the sacking of Madinah, explained by us on page 14.

Do you still think it appropriate to call Amir al-Momenin that person who initiated his kingdom by murdering the grandson of the Prophet (S), and crowned it with the sacking of the Prophet’s city, and violating the sanctity of not less than one thousand women (of the city) by impregnating them through raping? We ask the Wahhabis: “What Islamic justifications do you have to back your claim?”

Our seventh source is ibn Kathir who is regarded as an authority by the Wahhabis. On pages 235-236 of chapter four of his al-Bedayah wan-Nehayah, he enlists what have been confirmed about Yazid. Amongst these are that “Yazid was notorious for his love of music and liquors... his illicit friendship with singing boys and girls... There was not a single day that he woke up not intoxicated...”

Before that, on page 216 of the above mentioned chapter and book, ibn Kathir writes about the delegation, “comprising three citizens of Madinah,” going to Yazid. He says: “When they returned to Madinah, they made public their grave findings pertaining to Yazid’s perversities. They said: ‘We are returning from that person who is irreligious, who is a wine-bibber and who is surrounded by singing girls, entertaining him with music...’” He also writes about the comments made by the Head of this delegation, Mundher ibn Zubayr, upon his return from Basrah, where he had gone to meet his friend, the governor (‘Ubaydullah ibn Ziyad), namely that Yazid “consumes so many intoxicants that he misses prayers!”

There we are! When such is the case with Yazid, then what kind of a Muslim will take pride in having him as his Amir al-Momenin? Let the Wahhabis, who distributed the pamphlet calling Yazid Amir al-Momenin, thank their stars for not having lived during the reign of ‘Umar ibn ‘Abdul-‘Aziz. Or else, they would have got the best of what they deserve! This Caliph was from the same clan as Yazid; nonetheless, he flogged 20 lashes that individual who addressed Yazid as Amir al-Momenin! Those who want to verify this may turn to page 69 of chapter three of “Shadharat adh-Dhahab.”
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5 years ago  ::  Jun 29, 2008 - 3:19PM #6
Ali_Mahdi
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Who will respond to Yazid (LA)?

22:60 – “That (is so); and he who retaliated with the like of that whereby he was wronged, and again he was wronged, then most certainly God will help him; verily God is Merciful, Oft-Forgiving.” (22:60)

‘Ali ibn Ibrahim narrated in his Tafsir from Imam Sadeq (AS), who said:

The Quraysh banished the Messenger of God (S) from Makkah, and he escaped, (hiding) in a cave. (The Quraysh) chased him in order to kill him. However, God retaliated against them on the Day of Badr. ‘Otbah, Shaybah, Walid, Abu Jahl, Handhalah ibn Abi Sufyan, and many others were killed on that day.

After the death of the Prophet (S), (the enemies among the Quraysh) sought revenge for the Day of Badr by killing Husayn (AS) unjustly.

After the killing of Husayn (AS), Yazid ibn Mu’awiyah read the following poem:

I wish my forefathers of the Day of Badr could see the revenge of the tribes. (If they could see it) they would be extremely pleased and they would say to me, “Oh Yazid! May your hand never be paralyzed.” I am not the son of Khendef (the Mother of Quraysh) if I do not seek revenge against the children of Ahmad for what they did to us. We killed the elite of their masters and we avenged the day of Badr; so now we are even.

(In this verse), “he who retaliated” refers to the Prophet (S). “With the like of that whereby he was wronged” refers to the killing of Husayn (AS). “And again he was wronged, then most certainly God will help him” (this “help” refers to) the Qaem (AS) who is from among his sons.

These men were among the Quraysh leaders who fought against the Messenger of God (S).

Tafsir al-Qomi 2:87
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5 years ago  ::  Jun 29, 2008 - 5:01PM #7
Faqir
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I did not have the time to read all of Ali Mahdi's response so this may be repetitive.

Is he considered to be a Muslim by most Muslims?

There is a difference of opinion. Some say that he was so far gone that he cannot even be considered a muslim. I think that the more common opinion is that he was a muslim, but a very bad and sinful one.

Both the Shiites and Sunnis seem to carry a very low opinion of the man.

You just have to look at his life to understand why. He only ruled for three years. In the first year he killed Husayn and his family and followers, in the second year his armies captured Medina and it is said that 10,000 of the sahaba were beaten and tortured and more than 1000 of the daughters of the sahaba raped, in the third year his armies entered Mecca and burned the Kaba to the ground.

isn't Husain suppose to get some blame here, he did go into the city that his Grandfather prophesized his death at!

It would depend on what you mean by blame. He did nothing blameworthy although he was likely certain of his death. He could not, on principle, give allegiance to Yazid and orders were given for him to be killed if he refused to give allegiance and that is a large part of why he left Medina. He gave his life so to stand on the side of truth and it is because of the sacrifice of people like him that we have Islam today.

Also why should Husain be considered to be the Caliph solely for being the Prophet's grandson?

That is too complex of a question for me to answer here. Not everyone believes he should have for that reason. He was considered the most deserving person because of his greatness. He also never necessarily demanded to be Caliph himself, he demanded that Yazid not be Caliph. It is interesting to note the muslims throughout the ages have always loved the family of the Prophet and tried to put them in places of authority and that was one of the reasons they were so oppressed. Rulers, who mostly had no legitimacy, feared the family of the Prophet. What happened with Husayn was like the starting battle in a long war between freedom and truth and oppression and falsehood.

There is so much more about Yazid, but that should suffice to realize that you should not feel bad for Yazid. He is not deserving of our pity.
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5 years ago  ::  Jun 30, 2008 - 4:48PM #8
Muhammad_Ahmad
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"About fifty years had passed since Prophet Muhammad’s demise and Muavia, a provincial governor, had set aside the democratic electoral process and assumed the control of Muslim Arabia. After Muavia, his son Yazid inherited the throne. This was not acceptable to one man, Hussein. He stood up against the dictator and decided to move to a remote province in search of like-minded friends. Yazid sent his thirty five thousand men strong army to stop Hussein and his hundred or so family members and friends from reaching their destination. The battle ensued near the place called Karbala, Iraq.

The forces of Yazid brutally killed Hussein and many of his family members including infants. Yazid delayed the inevitable for a few more years, but his rule was over soon. Muslims learned from the sacrifice of Hussein that dying fighting for freedom and choice is better than living without it."  (Saad Mian, Oshkosh Northwestern)
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