| 4 years ago :: Jan 15, 2009 - 2:05AM #1 | |
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Have one?
Are you being drawn to one deity in particular? No, never had the 'urge'? Never heard of this, what are you talking about? I think this aspect is one of the best elements of CR (albeit it is apparent in a bevy of faiths, recon or otherwise). Of course, it is also an aspect which is almost entirely UPG, so it is not something which is going to be 'shared' (other than the Patrician relationship). Of course that UPG is generally reinforced by knowledge of the texts and characteristics of those deity. Personally, when I started I felt an overwhelming draw towards Lugh, part of that could have been because he had a large (and readily available) source list of information, especially when compared to many of the other Gods, often the more i "know" the closer I "feel". However his characteristics and cleverness are what really drew me towards him (I've also gotten pretty good and fidchel, though my opponents have mostly been computers). However, I have as not yet actually felt a strong enough 'urge' for patronage to Lugh. Recently (like three, four weeks ago), I began to look at Ogma, focus on his tales and his role in the myths and once again felt an overwhelming pull towards him. Does this sound like what any of you have 'experienced' in terms of interaction/ attraction to any of the Gods? Is this too touchy-feely for your likeing? (you've got some attitude mister!)
Truth in our hearts, Strength in our arms, Fulfillment in our tongues.
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| 4 years ago :: Jan 15, 2009 - 10:09AM #2 | |
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So you've never felt drawn to specific deity before, or more so than any of the others? I know there are many CR sets which make oaths to specific deities (Lugh and Brigid come to mind). Are there not more focused "relationships" than the general client-patron system?
There seems to be individuals, who have personal (even believe they have been chosen) by a specific deity to be their client, as it were. Perhaps the term patron was the wrong choice on my part (too general)? I mean even in the texts we have examples of figures being singled out by deities, and not recognizing them as such would usually bring peril and hardship.
Truth in our hearts, Strength in our arms, Fulfillment in our tongues.
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| 4 years ago :: Jan 15, 2009 - 12:09PM #3 | |
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I've reread what you posted and then my own original post, as I did not make any reference to the concept that the Deithe are essentially defacto patrons, I can see where the disconnect is. I was referring more to a singular patronage (i.e. one who has personally sworn oaths to Lugh) as opposed to the inherit client-patron relationship you mention as one of the foundations of Celtic polytheism.
That will learn me to be more focused...
Truth in our hearts, Strength in our arms, Fulfillment in our tongues.
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| 4 years ago :: Jan 15, 2009 - 5:36PM #4 | |
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It was an interesting discussion, wish I had not missed it.
Though I suppose this is an area where UPG comes into play. I know there are certianly people who seek out and pledge themselves to deities whom they feel a strong pull towards. Whether this is enough to merit belief in being 'called' , or it involves a more detailed (i.e. vision, dream, meditation, etc) experience to glean such a patronage from I ceetainly can not say. I do not think it is possible to invalidate someone else's UPG, but they should reflect the texts, or be a common enough similar experiences to become a SPG, as it is I am unsure where the community stands on the issue. Though I would have to agree that in the case of the texts such patronage was the exclusivity of heroes or kings. Though there aren't exactly a lot of tales about non-heroic or exemplarly individuals... then again that then begins to border on modernist projections so its a slippery slope to go tread.
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