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Flag lori-dee-3 August 18, 2008 7:59 PM EDT
Hi all! I was hoping that you could give me some insight on what your beliefs are. My daughter married an SDA and so we are very interested ... especially when it comes to family life. I am of the Mo. Synod  Lutheran religion. How different are these religions AS WELL as alike???
Flag sincerly August 18, 2008 11:36 PM EDT

lori-dee-3 wrote:

Hi all! I was hoping that you could give me some insight on what your beliefs are. My daughter married an SDA and so we are very interested ... especially when it comes to family life. I am of the Mo. Synod Lutheran religion. How different are these religions AS WELL as alike???



Lori, Welcome to the SDA Forums!!
There are a few Differences, but  I will let you see and decide for yourself . If you will go to this site you will find our "Fundamental Beliefs".
http://www.adventist.org/beliefs/fundamental/index.html

Basically this forum is for SDA to SDA, but I don't mind answering your Question. The Forum you should have been on is the "Welcome--Seventh Day Adventism" ----And should you want to debate any of our Beliefs-----that is the "Discuss---Seventh Day Adventism."

So with that information, I look forward to many more conversations.

Flag mrfountain September 23, 2008 2:15 AM EDT
[QUOTE=lori-dee-3;700036]Hi all! I was hoping that you could give me some insight on what your beliefs are. My daughter married an SDA and so we are very interested ... especially when it comes to family life. I am of the Mo. Synod  Lutheran religion. How different are these religions AS WELL as alike???[/QUOTE]
Hi my name is  mitchell,and we sd,s believe in the three angels messages from rev;14.We  also believe in keeping the true sabbath day wherein that would make the sabbath day on saturday.SDA,s believe also in keeping all ten,not nine of the commandments and keeping our bodies(temples)clean with good thoughts and good food ha ha.If you have anything you would like to know I will be blessed to answer any question,God bless,preacher man.
Flag Haldog February 2, 2009 11:20 PM EST
And some SDA's believe that the work of Jesus Christ on the cross was a finished atoning work and sin is no longer a problem with God, it was taken care of 2000 years ago.  Praise God!
Flag sincerly February 4, 2009 9:36 PM EST

Haldog wrote:

And some SDA's believe that the work of Jesus Christ on the cross was a finished atoning work and sin is no longer a problem with God, it was taken care of 2000 years ago. Praise God!


Hal, Technically, Jesus is the "Lamb slain from the foundation of the world" Rev.13:8; therefore, sin and its correcting solution was solved over 6000 years ago. The "FULFILLING ACT" was accomplished 2000 years ago.
However, there is still a portion of the final eradication of "sin and wickedness(including Satan and his evil angels) and the "creation of the new heavens and new earth" which is future.(but certain)

Flag lori-dee-3 February 13, 2009 1:56 PM EST

sincerly wrote:

Hal, Technically, Jesus is the "Lamb slain from the foundation of the world" Rev.13:8; therefore, sin and its correcting solution was solved over 6000 years ago. The "FULFILLING ACT" was accomplished 2000 years ago.
However, there is still a portion of the final eradication of "sin and wickedness(including Satan and his evil angels) and the "creation of the new heavens and new earth" which is future.(but certain)


Thank you for you help. It was most helpful.

Friends Through Christ,
lori-dee-3

Flag lori-dee-3 February 13, 2009 1:59 PM EST

sincerly wrote:

Lori, Welcome to the SDA Forums!!
There are a few Differences, but  I will let you see and decide for yourself . If you will go to this site you will find our "Fundamental Beliefs".
http://www.adventist.org/beliefs/fundamental/index.html

Basically this forum is for SDA to SDA, but I don't mind answering your Question. The Forum you should have been on is the "Welcome--Seventh Day Adventism" ----And should you want to debate any of our Beliefs-----that is the "Discuss---Seventh Day Adventism."

So with that information, I look forward to many more conversations.


Thank you for your web site, it helped me understand more.

Yours In Christ

Flag lori-dee-3 February 27, 2009 12:30 PM EST

Sep 23, 2008 -- 2:15AM, mrfountain wrote:

lori-dee-3 wrote:

Hi all! I was hoping that you could give me some insight on what your beliefs are. My daughter married an SDA and so we are very interested ... especially when it comes to family life. I am of the Mo. Synod  Lutheran religion. How different are these religions AS WELL as alike???


Hi my name is  mitchell,and we sd,s believe in the three angels messages from rev;14.We  also believe in keeping the true sabbath day wherein that would make the sabbath day on saturday.SDA,s believe also in keeping all ten,not nine of the commandments and keeping our bodies(temples)clean with good thoughts and good food ha ha.If you have anything you would like to know I will be blessed to answer any question,God bless,preacher man.



 


I would like to add that some Lutherans DO acknowdedge the true sabbath (Saturday) and so you SDA's shouldn't be so fast in putting down others just because we have a different faith than yours. After all, we all worship the one true Lord and Savior of all mankind do we not? "Many blessing!"

Flag sincerly February 27, 2009 10:44 PM EST

Feb 27, 2009 -- 12:30PM, lori-dee-3 wrote:


Sep 23, 2008 -- 2:15AM, mrfountain wrote:

lori-dee-3 wrote:

Hi all! I was hoping that you could give me some insight on what your beliefs are. My daughter married an SDA and so we are very interested ... especially when it comes to family life. I am of the Mo. Synod Lutheran religion. How different are these religions AS WELL as alike???


Hi my name is mitchell,and we sd,s believe in the three angels messages from rev;14.We also believe in keeping the true sabbath day wherein that would make the sabbath day on saturday.SDA,s believe also in keeping all ten,not nine of the commandments and keeping our bodies(temples)clean with good thoughts and good food ha ha.If you have anything you would like to know I will be blessed to answer any question,God bless,preacher man.



 


I would like to add that some Lutherans DO acknowdedge the true sabbath (Saturday) and so you SDA's shouldn't be so fast in putting down others just because we have a different faith than yours. After all, we all worship the one true Lord and Savior of all mankind do we not? "Many blessing!"




Lori, what  is your understanding/interpretation  of Eph.4:1-5:20 in context of 2:19-22? Do you believe that Eve was worshiping the True GOD when she was "obeying" a different voice?  Wasn't one of Christ's temptations concerning worship?(And that of the True GOD?)


Also, Take a look at Matt.7:21-23. WAS Jesus unfair in HIS judgment of their motives? Can one deceive one's self concerning "their profession?  In this world, Jesus said we would have one of two masters--------Whose Will are we following?


 


 

Flag lori-dee-3 March 1, 2009 4:29 PM EST

Feb 27, 2009 -- 10:44PM, sincerly wrote:


Feb 27, 2009 -- 12:30PM, lori-dee-3 wrote:


Sep 23, 2008 -- 2:15AM, mrfountain wrote:

lori-dee-3 wrote:

Hi all! I was hoping that you could give me some insight on what your beliefs are. My daughter married an SDA and so we are very interested ... especially when it comes to family life. I am of the Mo. Synod Lutheran religion. How different are these religions AS WELL as alike???


Hi my name is mitchell,and we sd,s believe in the three angels messages from rev;14.We also believe in keeping the true sabbath day wherein that would make the sabbath day on saturday.SDA,s believe also in keeping all ten,not nine of the commandments and keeping our bodies(temples)clean with good thoughts and good food ha ha.If you have anything you would like to know I will be blessed to answer any question,God bless,preacher man.



 


I would like to add that some Lutherans DO acknowdedge the true sabbath (Saturday) and so you SDA's shouldn't be so fast in putting down others just because we have a different faith than yours. After all, we all worship the one true Lord and Savior of all mankind do we not? "Many blessing!"




Lori, what  is your understanding/interpretation  of Eph.4:1-5:20 in context of 2:19-22? Do you believe that Eve was worshiping the True GOD when she was "obeying" a different voice?  Wasn't one of Christ's temptations concerning worship?(And that of the True GOD?)


Also, Take a look at Matt.7:21-23. WAS Jesus unfair in HIS judgment of their motives? Can one deceive one's self concerning "their profession?  In this world, Jesus said we would have one of two masters--------Whose Will are we following?


 


 




Mitchell, again please do NOT be offended by me. I am not here to justify my faith, just as you do not need to justify why you believe in the faith in which you do. The main thing is that we DO believe in the Holy Bible, of God's Holy Words "alone"! So many do not believe in God and I feel for them. I simply just wanted to know the differences of your faith verses the Lutheran faith. Plain and simple. And before you go and say that you "only" take heart to all 10 Commandments I was trying to tell you that I; as a Lutheran DO know about the Sabbath and DO worship on Saturday. Some Lutherans do worship on Saturdays. That is all I meant to say. Sorry if we got off on the wrong footing here. But I know that there are other teachings within the SDA that just don't seem right, not to me. Maybe they are ok for you and it is fitting for you, but I yearn more ... My church seems so much more real. It may be  that they (SDA) haven't the right pastor to motivate members or what have you, but just visiting those few times I never got a real connection like I do in my church. Either way I'm fully staying 100% a Lutheran. Just was inquiring for others. Thanks!

Flag sincerly March 3, 2009 2:20 PM EST

Lori, I wasn't offended by your post, but agreeing that many have an acquaintance with the Bible, but for any number of reasons, fail to follow GOD'S Will.


Of course, you are absolutely correct in following the convection of your understanding of the scriptures. That which is a meaningful worship to one may not be such for another.  Only God spelled out the correct "Follow Me"/"Way".  Which wasn't through "men's councils or traditions."  Christ warned about the "Broad way" and indicated only those on the "straight and narrow way"/path would prevail. Therefore,  my asking:


Lori, what  is your understanding/interpretation  of Eph.4:1-5:20 in context of 2:19-22? Do you believe that Eve was worshiping the True GOD when she was "obeying" a different voice?  Wasn't one of Christ's temptations concerning worship?(And that of the True GOD?)


Also, Take a look at Matt.7:21-23. WAS Jesus unfair in HIS judgment of their motives? Can one deceive one's self concerning "their profession?  In this world, Jesus said we would have one of two masters--------Whose Will are we following?



Thanks be to GOD that we can learn more concerning HIM and change our minds/opinions.  Prov.14:12 would do us all in if we failed to see where some of our choices would end.


Phil.4:8 admonishes us to "think on these things", such as above, and other of Paul's writings----1Cor.10:6, 11; Heb.4:2; 2Tim.2:15; which are the same Scriptures which Jesus said "search"(John 5:39) and so did Paul. (Acts 17:11; 24:14)


As one can see, the principles and teachings of the O.T. continued to be the "Authoritative WORD" taught by Jesus and the Apostles.  It is still the "Everlasting Gospel".


One has to take into consideration Paul's 2 Thess.2:3-4 and that "Power" continuing to the end of time.(as seen in Daniel and Revelation) (Since it corrupted the "gospel")


 


 

Flag samuelbb7 March 25, 2009 1:17 PM EDT

One of the points we believe is a problem that Martin Luther struggled with.


We do not believe in immortal souls.  We believe that when a person dies they are asleep in the grave awaiting the resurrection.  Also we believe that the wages of sin is death. Not eternal life in hell.


The biggest problem you might have with your new relatives is on our eating habits. SDA do not eat foods that the Bible calls unclean.  We believe these Health regulations apply to all people.  Many SDA's eat a lot of vegetarian food also.

Flag Lutz13 March 27, 2009 3:19 PM EDT
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I think the size of the church may be a factor. I recently found a small congregation of SDA people that I really enjoy. They seem very real and are lovely people. When you have a bigger church, you feel a lack of fellowship. Atleast that is how it seems.


Something Ellen White wrote that really popped out at me and helped me a lot. It's in Desire of Ages page, 390 where she says:


 


"As our physical life is sustained by food, so our spiritual life is sustained by the word of God. And every soul is to recieve life from God's word for himself. As we must eat for ourselves in order to recieve nourishment, so we must recieve the word for ourselves. we are not to obtain it merely through the medium of another's mind. We should carefully study the Bible, asking God for the aid for the Holy Spirit, that we may understand His word. We should take one verse, and concentrate the mind on the task of ascertaining the thought which God has put in that verse for us. We should dwell upon the thought until it becomes our own, and we know 'what saith the Lord'"


 


So like you said. What is important is believing in God's word. And eating of it daily. Which church you belong to isn't going to be the deciding factor if you make it or not.


 


Also, we shouldn't have faith in churches or religion, our faith should be in Christ. He will then lead us down His path if we keep our eyes fixed on Him.

Flag samuelbb7 March 28, 2009 8:14 PM EDT

True Lutz putting our faith in churches will always fail. People will fail us. But GOD does not.

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