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7 years ago  ::  Nov 18, 2007 - 10:52PM #1
Rimes_Glimmer
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i'm in a discussion elsewhere and New Age is being defined there. i'd like to ask of people who self identify as New Age how they define their belief system.

so, if there is anybody frequenting this board; What is New Age?

is New Age represented by a merging, fusion, or blending of Eastern and Western beliefs and philosophies?

is New Age a generally monotheistically oriented belief system? if so, is this gender neutral, gender masculine, or gender feminine?

is there a mindset to New Age of the spiritual being as superior to the physical being?

what is the human life seen to be? is it a transitory phase to something more or a time of punishment or something else?

is personal responsibility a factor in New Age belief?

does Christ or Christianity have any place in New Age beliefs?

my thanks to anyone who chooses to answer these questions from a place of identifying as a person of the New Age movement.

Glimmer?
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7 years ago  ::  Nov 19, 2007 - 12:51PM #2
malachan
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Hi Rimes,

I don't know if you have already checked this out, but there's a really informative article at Wikipedia on the New Age here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Age

Since there are no official set New Age doctrines, practices, or beliefs, you may therefore find several different answers to each of your questions.

Considering we're all different and unique in countless ways, the New Age to me is about finding a personal truth that's right and works for you.  Over time with new knowledge and experience, you may find that this personal truth may change, evolve, and expand along with you as well.

Blessings
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7 years ago  ::  Nov 19, 2007 - 3:02PM #3
Rimes_Glimmer
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hello Malachan,
thank you so much for replying. at the moment the wikepedia article seems a good one.

however, i was hoping for responses from people who self-identify as New Age as to those things i've put into questions. i expect or hope to receive responses that are not all of a same. personal views as it were.

frith,
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7 years ago  ::  Nov 20, 2007 - 11:10AM #4
spiritalk
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[QUOTE=Rimes_Glimmer;79484]Q:i'm in a discussion elsewhere and New Age is being defined there. i'd like to ask of people who self identify as New Age how they define their belief system.

so, if there is anybody frequenting this board; What is New Age?

A:  I do not identify as New Age.  I do see their intrusion into other groups with their ideas and expect the platform to pronounce it.  Are you welcoming all takers on your questions?  Or are you limiting it to those you identify as following New Age?

Q:  is New Age represented by a merging, fusion, or blending of Eastern and Western beliefs and philosophies?

A:  From the dictionary on Paranormal I found New Age to be a fragmented collections of ideas that touch on many and varied philosophies.  It would be too limiting to merely state Eastern and Western philosophies.  All sorts of new thought ideas arise that are welcomed and adopted by those following this eclectic path.

Q:  is New Age a generally monotheistically oriented belief system? if so, is this gender neutral, gender masculine, or gender feminine?

A:  New Age tends to dismiss any deity in favour of personal belief.  So the higher power becomes as themselves, rather than outside themselves as a higher power.

Q:  is there a mindset to New Age of the spiritual being as superior to the physical being?

A:  It has taken the notion of late to see human beings as the superior power.  Anyone that takes a spiritual path can be identified as the latest higher being.

Q:  what is the human life seen to be? is it a transitory phase to something more or a time of punishment or something else?

A:  A series of lessons.  The goal of which is usually quite unclear as many believe in an afterlife and some do not.  Atheists have also identified themselves as new age followers because of its humanistic approach.


Q:  is personal responsibility a factor in New Age belief?

A:  No!  There is a constant seeking of 'blame' in human affairs.  This is not seeking personal responsibility for personal growth.

Q:  does Christ or Christianity have any place in New Age beliefs?

A:  Many Christians are now retaining their beliefs and adding on new age as a factor.  There are also atheists who claim new age ideals.  New age followers can come from any and all walks of life as it is only encouraged through literature and whereever they can 'find' a platform to perpetuate their non-joining attitudes.

my thanks to anyone who chooses to answer these questions from a place of identifying as a person of the New Age movement.

Glimmer?[/QUOTE]

From a group who is open and welcoming in new thought, the new age followers, particularly those who do not believe in joining and supporting any group (religious or otherwise) take the platform and lead followers of new thought away.  The question is....

are any new age followers willing to support a group paying for the privilege of meeting by their own financial as well as group support? 

Is any new age follower willing to respect others' approaches to religion and philosophy? 

While new age thinking has become very anti-church structure, are they willing to respect the job that this structure is doing, instead of drawing people away?
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7 years ago  ::  Dec 11, 2007 - 11:31AM #5
Icarus580
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What is New Age?
The New Age has many different threads or movements in it.  It is a holistic spirituality with emphasis on the mind, body, and spirit.  It started as a movment that took some of the "best" teachings out of other religions.  Eventually it became a movement in an of itself with teachings on channeling, law of attraction, reincarnation, meditation, crystals etc.  If you ask New Agers about their spiritual path you are likely to get very different answers, because it is a very personal path.

is New Age represented by a merging, fusion, or blending of Eastern and Western beliefs and philosophies?  Yes and No.  Many of the beliefs of many New Agers adopted beliefs from Hinduism, Buddhism, and Christianity.  From there has blossomed its own philosophies and theologies that are different from the religions it borrowed from.

is New Age a generally monotheistically oriented belief system? if so, is this gender neutral, gender masculine, or gender feminine? 
New Age is primarily monistic-everything is God and God is everything-though of late a more monotheistic approach has been developing (The Conversations with God books for example).  Also the Goddess spirituality movement has been classified as New Age by some.

is there a mindset to New Age of the spiritual being as superior to the physical being?
I would say "no" because within the New Age there is a strong current of holistic diet, caring for the body (detox, massage, eating right), healers, and environmentalism.  Hardly negative toward the physical. ;)  I would say the New Age tries very hard to be holistic towards the physical and the spiritual.

what is the human life seen to be? is it a transitory phase to something more or a time of punishment or something else?
Human Life is an opportunity to learn and grow.  What we do allows us to understand ourselves and those around us-as well as understanding God.  This life is one of many in which we receive the opportunity to grow.

is personal responsibility a factor in New Age belief?
Yes.  Many if not most New Agers hold to a modified belief in karma, what you do in thought, word, and deed affects others, yourself and the world-giving rise to a gentler attitude and expression of life.

does Christ or Christianity have any place in New Age beliefs?
For some New Agers yes....Many New Agers believe Christ was an ascended master-a teacher from the Divine.  Others have little to do with him as he is not central in many New Age beliefs.

I hope this helps!
Icarus580
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7 years ago  ::  Jan 11, 2008 - 12:56PM #6
Bhima
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Friend,

One foundational precept which to me is the very heart and soul of what is truly new age is the understanding that any attempt to fix it, to tie it down in a minutia of dogma is to kill it. That is to make what must be fresh and lively into something old and stale. Dogma defines is what is dead letter, what lives, is in the beating heart of every present moment.

New Age must ever be fresh and alive, new in the present; in every moment. It’s not a portfolio of ideas, it a lively direct experience of an essential conscious reality. This has been the teaching of awakened souls throughout the ages. Dogma without living spirit is for hypocrites who are; as Jesus said “like unto whited sepulchers, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones”.

Though consciousness is ever wakeful,
It is always dreaming the other.
Its secret; its blessing, is love for the other.
So it is said we are made in that image.
This is a mystery without beginning or end.
Thus the master knows it is always ever new.

Mystics; the knowers of universal ageless wisdom have said, “What is waking to the deluded man is like sleeping to the wise”. Deluded we believe in the dream of our separateness, we dream we are wandering lost and alone, exiled from the one which embraces all. By thought we dream we are exiled in time and space, yet our home, our point of origin is beyond thought, beyond time and space, which are the creation of thought, and the belief in our separateness by which we are imprisoned. So what is new is the moment of our awakening to what is ageless. And that moment can be in any moment; it can be, it must be, in each and every moment.

Our ever new awakening is remembering what is ageless. What is ageless, beyond time and space, is in one sense ever new. It is the instantaneous awakening to what always is, in every moment. This awakening to what always is, is called new age, only because we remember what always was and thus our awakening is ever new because it is timeless, without beginning or end. The universal path of incarnation is the re-cognition of universal oneness in the eternal moment now. It is awakening to the “oneness”, the wholeness of our eternal being.

What is nameless is thus called by many names.
In the one there is always the infinite potential of the other;
the ever new.
That is the occult nature of the infinite.

Best Wishes!
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7 years ago  ::  Apr 25, 2008 - 3:09PM #7
Aton
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What is New Age Dharma?
New Age Dharma is a spiritual awareness of modern man who is finding Judeo-Christian line of monotheistic personal- God- oriented, blind-faith-driven religion unacceptable to his sensibilities.

How they define their belief system?
New Age Dharma is not a set of beliefs. Either all beliefs are correct (as relative reality) or none of them is correct (because none of the beliefs represent absolute reality). Even science is relative to the limitations of present day tools, instruments and equations, which may improve in future. Hence there should be no fights on the issues of beliefs and all the beliefs should be respected. (Except the dogmatic beliefs, which state that all other beliefs are falsehoods and satanic)
If at all there is any belief among the New Agers, that is in the Karmik law and rebirth (reincarnation).

Is New age represented by a merging, fusion or blending of Eastern and Western beliefs and philosophies?
No. It is not represented by merging or fusion of Eastern and Western beliefs. Rather it is a direct influence of Eastern philosophies and religions over Western individual. Over the last two centuries, Eastern thoughts, mainly Indian, both Veantic Hindu and Buddhistic (whether Zen, Chinese, Tibetan, or Theravada), influenced and shaped the minds of many of the Western intellectuals. Emerson, Goethe, Schopenhaurer, Fitche, Hegel, Thoreau, Carlyle, Stephen Zwig, Romyan Rolland, Jung, Abraham Maslow etc. had first hand study of Indian philosophy and its influence over their thoughts. The Chinese philosophers Lao Tse and Confucius also  stirred the Western minds. Contemporary New age Gurus like Robin Sharma, Dipak Chopra etc have received direct trainings from Indian, Japanese or Tibetan Gurus. Some Western contribution to New Age has been from Western Paganism and Western Tantricism (also called Witchcraft or WICCA), which survived in spite of Christian (and also Muslim and Jewish) attempts to end sorcery and paganism. Witchcraft, crystal, astrology are just the lay Westerners’ New age at mass level. The intellectuals strive only for enlightenment and understanding reality, the issues and problems of life and their solution. How can one make this world a better place to live is the central concern. Yoga and meditation are recognized means of transcendental experience in the New Age. The New Age is highly individualistic. It is religion of Man not religion of God. Man is at the centre of New Age, as it is in Vedantic Hinduism and Buddhism.

Is New Age a generally monotheistically oriented belief system? If so then is this gender neutral, Gender Masculine or Gender Feminine?
New Age is actually Monistic (or Advaita) meaning there is only one existence, and we all are part of that existence, we all are one with that. Hence practically it is more of a Panenthiestic or Pantheistic in nature. Everything is God, whether living or non living. It is also the cornerstone of many Hindu (like Advaita) and some Mahayana sects. There is no personal God in New Age, i.e. God as a person. God is just a spiritual wave or force present in everything and every being. However followers of New age are free to worship some deities, which may be male or female. Mostly the deities are female, like mother earth, the mother Ganga, etc.

Is there a mindset of New Age that spiritual being is superior to physical being?
The spiritual existence is the real existence in absolute terms, yet physical existence is as much real because this is the form of existence in which our senses and mind operate. It is the body-mind, the physical, which does yoga and meditation, which perceives and contemplates. Hence body-mind is no less important than atman or spirit. But when spiritual awakening has happened then the individual gives more weight to his spiritual requirements and well being than physical requirements. Hence spiritual awakening and evolution remains the goal of every New Ager.

What is the human life seen to be? Is it a transitory phase to something more.. or punishment or something else?
Human life is a wonderful experience. It is a phenomenon, a happening which is in itself a series of happenings. It is an opportunity to evolve, to contribute, to love, to be loved, to create, to think.

Is personal responsibility a factor in New Age?
Yes. That is why Karmic Law. The Karmic Law considers you responsible for each and every act, thought or speech.

Does Christ or Christianity have any place in New Age?
Not necessarily. But optionally yes. Because all the beliefs are considered at par with each other. Many of the New Agers were Christians like Annie Bessent and Kahlil Gibran. But they were not orthodox and were independent in thought. There are many preachings in the New Testament (like the Sermon on the Mount) which blend well with the New age thought. But the New age would not accept that Jesus Christ is the only means of salvation.
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7 years ago  ::  Apr 25, 2008 - 3:30PM #8
Aton
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Furthermore I will like to add that the New Age may be extremely confusing somethimes to an outsider. It has to be understood that the New Age operates at several levels horizontally and differs among groups vertically.
Horizontally, the intellectual New Age Dharma is about enlightenment and understanding life, Karma, and liberation from samsara. Thoughts of Buddha, Upanishads, Lao Tse all are helpful and meditative practices may lead to real spiritual awareness. This is like the Vedantic segment of Hindus in India.

At mass level the New age followers may be interested in Wicca, Freemasonary, Crystal, astral journey in the same way as the Tantrik segment of followers of Hinduism do. At one level many of the New Agers are Pagans. Which again may be seen among the Hindus of rural India who worship tree-spirit, mountains and rivers and are true Pagans, and do not even think about enlightenment.

Thus the wide spectrum in the New Age is not incompatible, because experience shows that a much wider spectrum of different practices have coexisted without clashing in India, and collectively known as Hinduism while there may be nothing in common among the various such groups of Hindu people in India.
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7 years ago  ::  Apr 26, 2008 - 7:49PM #9
nancyflorencecarlson
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of beliefs that are considered new age are actually very old especially ones that seem to have come out of the blue for a long time religious organizations tried to control the world and attempted to destroy the religions that differed from their own but now that the ancestors of those people live in free societys like america their ancestors beliefs are finding ways to come back to them.
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6 years ago  ::  Jul 01, 2008 - 5:35PM #10
Bob_Bennett
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Hello Rimes-Glimmer,

To me, 'new age' refers to the new Age of Aquarius, which may have begun during the 1960s, and for which the new scripture is A Course In Miracles.  ACIM is a successor to Christianity.
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