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2 years ago  ::  Jul 04, 2012 - 3:41AM #1
Daldianus
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Christianity (like all religions) is so full of silly and incoherent concepts that it hurts my mind. And I really cannot comprehend how otherwise apparently rational people can simply accept those silly concepts as true and rational.
But I guess it simply shows that one can be very rational on some subjects and utterly irrational on others, especially ones that are connected to fear and the unknown (what is the meaning of life? I don't want to die! etc).

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2 years ago  ::  Jul 04, 2012 - 6:22AM #2
Ed.W
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Silly, but they're everywhere.  It looks like Luxembourg is a more Christian nation than even America....



Luxembourg (Pop. 509,074 (July 2011 est.))


Roman Catholic 87%, other (includes Protestant, Jewish, and Muslim) 13% (2000)



United States (Pop 313,847,465 (July 2011 est.)):


Protestant 51.3%, Roman Catholic 23.9%, Mormon 1.7%, other Christian 1.6%, Jewish 1.7%, Buddhist 0.7%, Muslim 0.6%, other or unspecified 2.5%, unaffiliated 12.1%, none 4% (2007 est.)



Source:  Current CIA World Factbook

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2 years ago  ::  Jul 04, 2012 - 6:36AM #3
Daldianus
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Jul 4, 2012 -- 6:22AM, Ed.W wrote:


Silly, but they're everywhere.  It looks like Luxembourg is a more Christian nation than even America....



lol, that's because we're members by default in that club (the RCC)! :D


It's quite easy to grow your numbers that way.


You only need to go to a church on Sunday to see how many Christians/Catholics there really are ...

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2 years ago  ::  Jul 04, 2012 - 6:44AM #4
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Jul 4, 2012 -- 6:36AM, Daldianus wrote:


Jul 4, 2012 -- 6:22AM, Ed.W wrote:


Silly, but they're everywhere.  It looks like Luxembourg is a more Christian nation than even America....



lol, that's because we're members by default in that club (the RCC)! :D


It's quite easy to grow your numbers that way.


You only need to go to a church on Sunday to see how many Christians/Catholics there really are ...




Any idea how one is included as an RCC member?

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2 years ago  ::  Jul 04, 2012 - 6:46AM #5
Daldianus
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Jul 4, 2012 -- 6:44AM, koolpoi wrote:

Any idea how one is included as an RCC member?



Ok, well, what I said wasn't totally correct ... you're not a Catholic by default but the local tradition was to always immediately let your babies get baptized (if they died unbaptized they would end up in limbo or wherever!!) and thus you became a member of the RCC. Whether you wanted it or not. And it's very cumbersome to get off that list again! Although more and more people are doing it in the last few years.

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2 years ago  ::  Jul 04, 2012 - 6:56AM #6
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World Figures from the same source:  (7,021,836,029 (July 2012 est.))


Christian 33.35% (of which Roman Catholic 16.83%, Protestant 6.08%, Orthodox 4.03%, Anglican 1.26%), Muslim 22.43%, Hindu 13.78%, Buddhist 7.13%, Sikh 0.36%, Jewish 0.21%, Baha'i 0.11%, other religions 11.17%, non-religious 9.42%, atheists 2.04% (2009 est.)

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2 years ago  ::  Jul 04, 2012 - 6:57AM #7
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Jul 4, 2012 -- 6:56AM, Ed.W wrote:


World Figures from the same source:


Christian 33.35% (of which Roman Catholic 16.83%, Protestant 6.08%, Orthodox 4.03%, Anglican 1.26%), Muslim 22.43%, Hindu 13.78%, Buddhist 7.13%, Sikh 0.36%, Jewish 0.21%, Baha'i 0.11%, other religions 11.17%, non-religious 9.42%, atheists 2.04% (2009 est.)




And your point is? Something can't be silly or wrong if a lot of people believe it to be wise or true?

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2 years ago  ::  Jul 04, 2012 - 7:05AM #8
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Jul 4, 2012 -- 6:57AM, Daldianus wrote:


Jul 4, 2012 -- 6:56AM, Ed.W wrote:


World Figures from the same source:


Christian 33.35% (of which Roman Catholic 16.83%, Protestant 6.08%, Orthodox 4.03%, Anglican 1.26%), Muslim 22.43%, Hindu 13.78%, Buddhist 7.13%, Sikh 0.36%, Jewish 0.21%, Baha'i 0.11%, other religions 11.17%, non-religious 9.42%, atheists 2.04% (2009 est.)




And your point is? Something can't be silly or wrong if a lot of people believe it to be wise or true?




Well of course Christianity is not "silly".  I've never come across anyone who would say that and truly understand anything other than a caricature of it, and gets their info from other sources that are purposely trying to ridicule it. 


So I had to wonder just what presence Christianity even had in your real life.  I had suspected almost none, but I see I was mistaken.  It's thick.  And I'd suspect that your country is fairly devout too. 

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2 years ago  ::  Jul 04, 2012 - 7:14AM #9
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Jul 4, 2012 -- 6:46AM, Daldianus wrote:


Jul 4, 2012 -- 6:44AM, koolpoi wrote:

Any idea how one is included as an RCC member?



Ok, well, what I said wasn't totally correct ... you're not a Catholic by default but the local tradition was to always immediately let your babies get baptized (if they died unbaptized they would end up in limbo or wherever!!) and thus you became a member of the RCC. Whether you wanted it or not. And it's very cumbersome to get off that list again! Although more and more people are doing it in the last few years.




Does the RCC get any benefits from having so many on its list?

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2 years ago  ::  Jul 04, 2012 - 7:47AM #10
Daldianus
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Jul 4, 2012 -- 7:05AM, Ed.W wrote:

Well of course Christianity is not "silly".  I've never come across anyone who would say that and truly understand anything other than a caricature of it, and gets their info from other sources that are purposely trying to ridicule it.



But a lot of Christian myths and concepts ARE silly. Mainly because they're incoherent, illogical and irrational.


So I had to wonder just what presence Christianity even had in your real life.  I had suspected almost none, but I see I was mistaken.  It's thick.  And I'd suspect that your country is fairly devout too.



I'm still a Catholic on paper, lol, because it's such a PIA to get rid of that list ... although it's only a formality anyway.


My country is not very devout. As I said, check out the churches on Sunday. They're +- empty. Although there are a lot of people who of course like the use the church as a backdrop for marriages, baptisms, etc. But that doesn't mean that they're really devout. Most people don't take religion very seriously here.

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