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2 years ago  ::  Jul 01, 2012 - 2:07PM #1
mecdukebec
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"Reuters) - A group of about 150 Mormons quit their church in a mass resignation ceremony in Salt Lake City on Saturday in a rare display of defiance ending decades of disagreement for some over issues ranging from polygamy to gay marriage.

Participants from Utah, Arizona, Idaho and elsewhere gathered in a public park to sign a "Declaration of Independence from Mormonism."



"This feels awesome," said Alison Lucas, from West Jordan, Utah, who took part in the rally amid soaring temperatures. "I don't know if I would have had the courage except in a group."



The Utah-based Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is known for its culture of obedience, and the mass ceremony was a seldom-seen act of collective revolt.



After gathering in the park, participants hiked a half-mile up nearby Ensign Peak, scaled in 1847 by church President Brigham Young to survey the spot where his Latter-day Saints would build a city.



At the top, those gathered gave three loud shouts of "Freedom," cheered, clapped and hugged.



"It's been a hard journey and this is a symbolic end," said event organizer Zilpha Larsen, of Lehi, Utah. "I just hope that it boosts people up and helps them feel more comfortable in their decision."



The church bills itself as the one "true" Christian faith, and its theology promises families eternal relationships among those who remain faithful, sealing those gifts through special religious rites.



Among the reasons cited by those resigning are the church's political activism against gay marriage and doctrinal teachings that conflict with scientific findings or are perceived as racist or sexist.



Others cite inconsistencies in the Mormons' explanation of its own history, including the practice of polygamy. The church renounced plural marriage over a century ago as Utah was seeking statehood.



Asked about the resignations, a church spokesman said the church loves and respects each member.



"People make their own decisions about the direction they will follow in life," spokesman Michael Purdy said in an email. "While there are very few who take this action, it is sad to see someone choose to leave. We wish them well."



The most recent figures show the Mormon church claims 14.4 million members worldwide. The number of those resigning from the church are not publicly reported.



Among prominent Mormons is Mitt Romney, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee facing off against President Barack Obama in November. Should he win office, Romney would be the first Mormon elected to the White House." [...]

Source:  us-usa-utah-mormons-idUSBRE86000N20120701


I found the veiled reference to the BoA as a botched book, boffo.       

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"Wesley told the early Methodists to gain all they could and save all they could so that they could give all they could. It means that I consider my money to belong to God and I see myself as one of the hungry people who needs to get fed with God’s money. If I really have put all my trust in Jesus Christ as savior and Lord, then nothing I have is really my own anymore."
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2 years ago  ::  Jul 01, 2012 - 4:28PM #2
moksha8088
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It must have taken a lot of organizing to pull this resignation hike off.  Wonder if they also had a drum circle and met later on as a smaller group at Denny's. 

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2 years ago  ::  Jul 01, 2012 - 4:43PM #3
mecdukebec
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Jul 1, 2012 -- 4:28PM, moksha8088 wrote:


It must have taken a lot of organizing to pull this resignation hike off.  Wonder if they also had a drum circle and met later on as a smaller group at Denny's. 




I'm sure they ordered the "creep Suzette."

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"Wesley told the early Methodists to gain all they could and save all they could so that they could give all they could. It means that I consider my money to belong to God and I see myself as one of the hungry people who needs to get fed with God’s money. If I really have put all my trust in Jesus Christ as savior and Lord, then nothing I have is really my own anymore."
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2 years ago  ::  Jul 01, 2012 - 10:05PM #4
Aka_me
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link to the original article.


"It's hard, so we have to be very careful," said Robin Hansen, a participant who said she quit over a "culture of abuse" which she believes is cultivated by church teachings promoting obedience.


Hansen said her husband had not joined her in leaving the faith because he works in a church-related business and could lose his job if he doesn't maintain his membership.


when church members financially and emotionally seek retribution on those who leave the church...


it says deep down they know the church ISN'T true...


because if they honestly believed the church was true, they would take no action at all knowing those who leave will naturally and eventually come around to discovering the truth and join the church again.



if Jesus taught us anything... it was how to get revenge, yet another example of how the church restores things to what they once were.

the only time it's perfectly legal to shoot unarmed black people is when you have cops to plant evidence for you... turning justice into a sham.
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2 years ago  ::  Jul 01, 2012 - 10:13PM #5
Aka_me
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Among the reasons cited by those resigning are the church's political activism against gay marriage and doctrinal teachings that conflict with scientific findings or are perceived as racist or sexist.


church members are STARTING to figure out the problem in asking whether the absence of intestinal fortitude surrounding the non-existent revelation regarding:


yes, throw official church resources at Prop 8 by registering as a lobbying organization


or... no stop being a lobbying organization with tax excempt status.



is that God's problem in not being able to speak, or is that the church's problem in having nothing but old white dudes' sexist racist agenda running the entire show.

the only time it's perfectly legal to shoot unarmed black people is when you have cops to plant evidence for you... turning justice into a sham.
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2 years ago  ::  Jul 02, 2012 - 10:15PM #6
Svetlana
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Jul 1, 2012 -- 10:13PM, Aka_me wrote:


Among the reasons cited by those resigning are the church's political activism against gay marriage and doctrinal teachings that conflict with scientific findings or are perceived as racist or sexist.


church members are STARTING to figure out the problem in asking whether the absence of intestinal fortitude surrounding the non-existent revelation regarding:


yes, throw official church resources at Prop 8 by registering as a lobbying organization


or... no stop being a lobbying organization with tax excempt status.



is that God's problem in not being able to speak, or is that the church's problem in having nothing but old white dudes' sexist racist agenda running the entire show.



Oh, God speaks.  After all, that group heard Him, as have so many others.  It's that he old, racist, sexist, self-serving dudes refuse to listen.

"No matter how big and bad you are, when a two-year-old hands you a toy phone, you answer it."  ~ (common sense)

"Never place a period where God has placed a comma."  ~ Gracie Allen

"I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it." ~ Abraham Lincoln

"I wonder sometimes if we ever give God a headache." ~ Dontay Hall, age 8
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2 years ago  ::  Jul 03, 2012 - 12:21AM #7
moksha8088
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en masse



Does doing it En Masse signify that they have already taken the Catechism Classes and a very liberal priest?

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2 years ago  ::  Jul 04, 2012 - 2:03AM #8
Unworthyone
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My first thought was "This gives a whole new spin to the term 'coming out'" 


On the other hand, there are many similarities to leaving the LDS Church and those who publicly acknowledge their heretofore hidden sexual orientation.  For many, it takes a great deal of courage, and they are to be congratulated for having such courage.


Thank God they were able to find one another and draw on their collective strength.


I never consider a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend.  Thomas Jefferson

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
Albert Einstein

You can get anything you want out of life if you will just help enough other people get what they want. Zig Ziglar

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2 years ago  ::  Jul 04, 2012 - 3:57PM #9
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"150 Mormons quit their church"



Whoopee



And they had to bus them in to get that many.

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2 years ago  ::  Jul 04, 2012 - 8:07PM #10
Habala?!
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Jul 4, 2012 -- 3:57PM, withwonderingawe wrote:


"150 Mormons quit their church"



Whoopee



And they had to bus them in to get that many.




The church has a problem with retention. In many other countries the retention rate is 20%. The church continues to fudge the numbers, though.


There is also the fact that the internet is opening a lot of Mormon's eyes to the fact that the church has been hiding a lot from them.

"When you walk, you might like to take the hand of a child. She will receive your concentration and stability, and you will receive her freshness and innocence." -Tich Naht Hanh
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