Chevy wrote:

> Abner, if I see a business using the fish logo in their advertising or signage, I make

> it a point to avoid them. The rare people who have burned me financially in my

> 35+years playing music awere all alleged "Christians" (actual reading:

> fundamentalist Christians) working in the "Christian music" industry.... They tend

> to have rather bizarre principles when dealing with those not of their kind in

> business matters, such as no ethics at all. not paying royalties, etc.

I got similar advice from a devout Christian friend of mine; he said that the more point a fellow businessman made of how Christian they are, the more likely they were to try to cheat you.  He apparently learned that the hard way, and now considers overt (and especially over-the-top) signs of Christianity in someone's office as a warning sign.

I can't speak for that personally, but I did teach for a while for an Orthodox Jewish school (a yeshiva).  The yeshiva had a very interesting way of ordering supplies: we were under orders to find supply companies that hadn't heard of us, order as much as possible, and then not pay the bills.  Only if we couldn't find any way to get more supplies without paying some bills first should we pay any bills.  *shudders*  I hated working there ...  Years after I left and found a better job, I noticed in the newspaper a report that the yeshiva was being investigated for taking 10 million dollars of state grants (under a voucher program, if I recall correctly) and using them inappropriately (they used it for religious instruction and paying rabbis instead of for secular subjects).

My current cynicism about the overtly religious is, I think, well founded.

Jul 5, 2012 -- 3:01PM, chevy956 wrote:

Abner, if I see a business using the fish logo in their advertising or signage, I make it a point to avoid them.

Like wise, the only times I've been knowingly burned by employers or businesses, they've been run by christians who made a point of stating it. The two worst ones were, and probably still are, "upstanding members" of their church.

Now, if I see a "christian owned" etc sign I go elsewhere, it's just not worth the risk.

Jul 5, 2012 -- 7:26PM, MidnightCougar wrote:

Jul 5, 2012 -- 3:01PM, chevy956 wrote:

Abner, if I see a business using the fish logo in their advertising or signage, I make it a point to avoid them.

Like wise, the only times I've been knowingly burned by employers or businesses, they've been run by christians who made a point of stating it. The two worst ones were, and probably still are, "upstanding members" of their church.

Now, if I see a "christian owned" etc sign I go elsewhere, it's just not worth the risk.

 I too avoid establishments that shout out their christianity.

There are SOME Persons I ALSO avoid because of their "Attitudes," and indeed SOME of them ARE "Christians" ... and SOME of them are "Atheists" ... and SOME of them are [ ......... ] ....

Jul 5, 2012 -- 11:18PM, mountain_man wrote:

Jul 5, 2012 -- 11:03PM, mainecaptain wrote:

I too avoid establishments that shout out their christianity.

It's not the Christianity I avoid, or the christians, It's the attitude.

There is a hardware store 3 miles from my place that had a huge sign saying they would not take a certain US coin because it did not have "in god we trust" on it. He has christian signs all over the store and bible quotes printed on his receipts.

I bypass that store for one 7 miles further away. Apparently others are doing the same; he's not doing very well. Most contractors in the area will not do business with him. He gets really bad lumber and sells it at the highest price in the area.

He can do whatever he wants, but no law says I have to shop there either.

Well, they would not like my money, would they? I do not put a federal reserve note into my wallet until I have first marked through the unconstitutional slogan on its reverse.