Jun 17, 2012 -- 12:09AM, koolpoi wrote:

What if we were to find that a certain Bible passage was not the word of God?

Like what and/or how would you demonstrate that?

What if parts of the Bible are just plain wrong? Bishop Spong talks at great length about the "terrible texts of the bible." These have been invoked to justify slavery, genocide, war, oppression of whole groups like women, gays, etc. I daresay most of us would agree that the Bible was just plain wrong in these things.

Jun 17, 2012 -- 9:24AM, jonny42 wrote:

Jun 17, 2012 -- 8:45AM, bigbear6161 wrote:

What if parts of the Bible are just plain wrong? Bishop Spong talks at great length about the "terrible texts of the bible." These have been invoked to justify slavery, genocide, war, oppression of whole groups like women, gays, etc. I daresay most of us would agree that the Bible was just plain wrong in these things.

I'd say the interpretation and/or application is wrong.

Jesus said to "love one another."  If someone uses that to rape someone else (calling sex "love"), I don't think it means that "love one another" is just plain wrong.  It would mean their interpretation/application is wrong.

Right,

But these people blaspheme all that they do not understand, and they are destroyed by all that they, like unreasoning animals, understand instinctively. Woe to them! For they walked in the way of Cain and abandoned themselves for the sake of gain to Balaam's error and perished in Korah's rebellion. These are hidden reefs at your love feasts, as they feast with you without fear, shepherds feeding themselves; waterless clouds, swept along by winds; fruitless trees in late autumn, twice dead, uprooted; wild waves of the sea, casting up the foam of their own shame; wandering stars, for whom the gloom of utter darkness has been reserved forever. (Jude 1)

Jun 17, 2012 -- 9:45AM, newsjunkie wrote:

Jun 17, 2012 -- 8:15AM, Adelphe wrote:

Jun 17, 2012 -- 12:09AM, koolpoi wrote:

What if we were to find that a certain Bible passage was not the word of God?

Like what and/or how would you demonstrate that?

Why do Protestant Bibles exclude books such as Macabees that are in Catholic Bibles?

 There are a lot of books that are excluded from the Holy Bible, but they had believed that they have chosen the ones that are fitted for us.

Jun 17, 2012 -- 9:45AM, newsjunkie wrote:

Jun 17, 2012 -- 8:15AM, Adelphe wrote:

Jun 17, 2012 -- 12:09AM, koolpoi wrote:

What if we were to find that a certain Bible passage was not the word of God?

Like what and/or how would you demonstrate that?

Why do Protestant Bibles exclude books such as Macabees that are in Catholic Bibles?

Not all of them do, for one:

The Thirty-Nine Articles of Religion of the Church of England lists the deuterocanonical books as suitable to be read for "example of life and instruction of manners, but yet doth not apply them to establish any doctrine." The early lectionaries of the Anglican Church (as included in the Book of Common Prayer of 1662) included the deuterocanonical books amongst the cycle of readings, and passages from them were used in the services (such as the Benedicite)

Readings from the deuterocanonical books are now included in most, if not all, of the modern lectionaries in the Anglican Communion, based on the Revised Common Lectionary (in turn based on the post-conciliar Roman Catholic lectionary).

And here's the EO position:

The Eastern Orthodox Churches have traditionally included all the books of the Septuagint in their Old Testaments. The Greeks use the word Anagignoskomena (Ἀναγιγνωσκόμενα "readable, worthy to be read") to describe the books of the Greek Septuagint that are not present in the Hebrew Tanakh. When Orthodox theologians use the term "deuterocanonical," it is important to note that the meaning is not identical to the Roman Catholic usage. In Orthodox Christianity, deuterocanonical means that a book is part of the corpus of the Old Testament (i.e. is read during the services) but has secondary authority. In other words, deutero (second) applies to authority or witnessing power, whereas in Roman Catholicism, deutero applies to chronology (the fact that these books were confirmed later), not to authority