Jun 16, 2012 -- 11:51PM, jonny42 wrote:

Jun 16, 2012 -- 11:43PM, koolpoi wrote:

Jun 16, 2012 -- 11:34PM, jonny42 wrote:

Jun 16, 2012 -- 11:30PM, koolpoi wrote:

Jun 16, 2012 -- 11:26PM, jonny42 wrote:

Jun 16, 2012 -- 9:58PM, G.flower wrote:

That's what baffles me, people feel free to interpret the bible any way they want, to bolster up what those same people want to do. All this "I believe in the literal bible and God said the world was created in six days so it was!" And then they decide that what Jesus literally said, oh he didn't mean that, no, no, his words they interpret to mean something quite different than what he said, because they don't want to do it. 

It shouldn't be baffling.

There are different manners/styles in which people have communicated throughout history.    And people should try to understand what was meant by the author.  

You're not a follower of Jesus, yet you feel free to interpret how you think followers of Jesus should interpret his words.  Regardless of what you think they mean, you have no intention of following him.  

At least with Christians, their way of life is affected by their interpretation.  They intend to follow what they believe he is saying.  One may not agree with their interpretation, but at least it carries with it the integrity of being applied to their life. 

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I've never tried to interpret the Book of Mormon for Mormons or the Koran for Muslims.  Why?  I have no intention of applying any of it to my life, so I don't feel right trying to tell those who do apply it to their lives… what it means.   That would be disingenuous.

Actually Christianity is based on telling Jews that their interpretations of their sciptures are wrong.

Christians hold to the Hebrew Scriptures as Christian scripture, too.  

You need to find another comparison.

Actually Christians reinterpret Hebrew scriptures to support their faith which is what Mormons do with the NT.Christians did it to Jews so how can they complain when Mormons do it to the NT?

Though I don't agree with some of the Mormon's interpretations of the NT and OT (don't forget they also include the OT), at least a Mormon will apply those interpretations to their lives.  That's at least respectable.  Who's complaining about Mormon's having a different interpretation of the Bible differently?  We may not like their interpretation, but not that they give an interpretation.

That is different than the person rejecting the Bible as having authority over their life… and then proceeding to tell those who do what it means.   

So as long as people live by an interpretation of the Bible,it doesn't matter whether that interpretation is true or not?Jews live by a very different interpretation of the Hebrew scriptures and simply reject the NT.

Jun 16, 2012 -- 11:51PM, jonny42 wrote:

 Who's complaining about Mormon's having a different interpretation of the Bible differently? 

No one. 

I went back to see where Kool lost his cool, and it seems he was just taking up for G.Flower.

Jun 17, 2012 -- 12:16AM, jonny42 wrote:

Jun 17, 2012 -- 12:01AM, koolpoi wrote:

So as long as people live by an interpretation of the Bible,it doesn't matter whether that interpretation is true or not?Jews live by a very different interpretation of the Hebrew scriptures and simply reject the NT.

I believe the act of giving an interpretation is respectable… when one holds the interpretation to be applicable to themselves.

When one couldn't care less for the sake of living their own lives what the scriptures say, their act of interpreting those scriptures... is disingenuous.

And I think it's especially deplorable when non-believers of a religion try to argue their interpretation of a scripture they don't find authoritative… to support their political ideology.  

So simply trying to understand what the Biblical authors meant is disingenuous?Trying to understand where the Bible reflects God's will is disingenuous?

Jun 17, 2012 -- 12:27AM, koolpoi wrote:

Jun 17, 2012 -- 12:24AM, Ed.W wrote:

Jun 17, 2012 -- 12:01AM, koolpoi wrote:

 Who's complaining about Mormon's having a different interpretation of the Bible differently? 

No one. 

I went back to see where Kool lost his cool, and it seems he was just taking up for G.Flower.

There may be some technical problem.I didn't post that.

Well if you look at post #172 you certainly *appear* to have said it.  I fixed it nonetheless.  Try to clean up your posts.

Jun 17, 2012 -- 12:32AM, jonny42 wrote:

Jun 17, 2012 -- 12:30AM, koolpoi wrote:

Jun 17, 2012 -- 12:16AM, jonny42 wrote:

Jun 17, 2012 -- 12:01AM, koolpoi wrote:

So as long as people live by an interpretation of the Bible,it doesn't matter whether that interpretation is true or not?Jews live by a very different interpretation of the Hebrew scriptures and simply reject the NT.

I believe the act of giving an interpretation is respectable… when one holds the interpretation to be applicable to themselves.This helps explain anti-Jewish passages in the NT.

When one couldn't care less for the sake of living their own lives what the scriptures say, their act of interpreting those scriptures... is disingenuous.

And I think it's especially deplorable when non-believers of a religion try to argue their interpretation of a scripture they don't find authoritative… to support their political ideology.  

So simply trying to understand what the Biblical authors meant is disingenuous?Trying to understand where the Bible reflects God's will is disingenuous?

If one doesn't intend to apply their interpretation to their lives, yes.

It's one thing for a non-Muslim to ask a Muslim, "What did Muhammed mean when he wrote _______?" … and another thing to say to him/her, "This is what Muhammed meant, and you are not following him."

The first is respectable, the second is disingenuous.   

Actually that is what Christians have told  Jews for centuries,ie."Your interpretation of the Hebrew scriptures is wrong and ours is right."