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7 months ago ::
Oct 27, 2012 - 6:33PM
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I apologize for not seeing this post for 5 months! I've been unbelievably side-tracked by various things.
This is what I could find about first and second century mentions of the site as Christ's tomb:
According to
So you are saying there is no mention of Christ's tomb?
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7 months ago ::
Oct 28, 2012 - 4:35AM
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The resurrection was the consumate miracle,perhaps the founding event of Christianity.Why didn't Christians preserve the site of the tomb as a holy place for veneration?
According to most Christian streams, Jesus' tomb is the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. This is a major tourist site in Jerusalem, and is active today. It's in the Old City, in - of course - the Christian Quarter. According to the Protestants, Jesus's tomb is the "Garden Tomb", which is on Derech Sh'chem. You can get there by a short walk from Damascus Gate. If there is another site, I am unaware of it, and would appreciate hearing about it. I'm mentioning this because I live in Israel and am familiar with both places.
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7 months ago ::
Oct 28, 2012 - 5:20AM
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The resurrection was the consumate miracle,perhaps the founding event of Christianity.Why didn't Christians preserve the site of the tomb as a holy place for veneration?
According to most Christian streams, Jesus' tomb is the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. This is a major tourist site in Jerusalem, and is active today. It's in the Old City, in - of course - the Christian Quarter.
According to the Protestants, Jesus's tomb is the "Garden Tomb", which is on Derech Sh'chem. You can get there by a short walk from Damascus Gate.
If there is another site, I am unaware of it, and would appreciate hearing about it.
I'm mentioning this because I live in Israel and am familiar with both places.
Thanks for the information.As far as I understand,the Church of the Holy Sepulchre was only identified when Emperor Constantine's mother came to Jerusalem seeking the tomb site.A legitimate tomb site would IMO would have been remembered and venerated by Christians ever since the time of Jesus' death,not "discovered" centuries later.Do you have any idea when the Garden Tomb was first identified as Jesus' tomb?
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7 months ago ::
Oct 28, 2012 - 7:58AM
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Quote: "A legitimate tomb site would IMO would have been remembered and venerated by Christians ever since the time of Jesus' death,not "discovered" centuries later." Why? Christians venerate a risen Christ.
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7 months ago ::
Oct 29, 2012 - 9:38AM
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Quote:
"A legitimate tomb site would IMO would have been remembered and venerated by Christians ever since the time of Jesus' death,not "discovered" centuries later."
Why?
Christians venerate a risen Christ.
How many Xtians go on pilgrimages to Jerusalem?Why go if the risen Christ is everywhere?
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7 months ago ::
Nov 23, 2012 - 6:20AM
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I apologize for not seeing this post for 5 months! I've been unbelievably side-tracked by various things.
This is what I could find about first and second century mentions of the site as Christ's tomb:
According to
So you are saying there is no mention of Christ's tomb?
You won't believe this, but I typed out a couple of paragraphs about the tomb and none of it was submitted, even though I clicked on "submit post"!
Let me see if I can find the material I was looking at........Nope. So I'll look it up again.
I am interested in your thoughts.
Pam
Christian Witness of Jehovah, the God and Father of Christ and of us all.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 23, 2012 - 6:48AM
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Apparently, according to the website "Sacred Destinations," Christians in Jerusalem held worship services at the site [where the Church of the Holy Sepulchre is now] until 66 AD" when Christians heeded Christ's forewarning and fled the city (Matthew 24:15). This was reported in Eusebius' writings and also those of Socrates Scholasticus.....several centuries later. Local tradition weighs heavily in the belief that this is the site of Jesus' tomb. Contantine took this tradition into careful consideration when he set out to build his church there in 326 AD. The site was inconvenient and expensive, but he went with it because he considered the tradition as sensible and weighty. The locals had honored that site as the place of the tomb for a long time, and it has been shown through recent archaeological excavations to have once been outside the city but close to one of its gates---a good location for the crucifixion. (BiblePlaces.com) Other first century tombs are still preserved inside the church, and "thus attest to some kind of burial ground in the area. Combined with the evidence from tradition, this church is most likely the true location of the Christ's death and burial."
I am interested in your thoughts.
Pam
Christian Witness of Jehovah, the God and Father of Christ and of us all.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 24, 2012 - 7:03AM
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Apparently, according to the website "Sacred Destinations," Christians in Jerusalem held worship services at the site [where the Church of the Holy Sepulchre is now] until 66 AD" when Christians heeded Christ's forewarning and fled the city (Matthew 24:15). This was reported in Eusebius' writings and also those of Socrates Scholasticus.....several centuries later.
Local tradition weighs heavily in the belief that this is the site of Jesus' tomb. Contantine took this tradition into careful consideration when he set out to build his church there in 326 AD. The site was inconvenient and expensive, but he went with it because he considered the tradition as sensible and weighty. The locals had honored that site as the place of the tomb for a long time, and it has been shown through recent archaeological excavations to have once been outside the city but close to one of its gates---a good location for the crucifixion. (BiblePlaces.com)
Other first century tombs are still preserved inside the church, and "thus attest to some kind of burial ground in the area. Combined with the evidence from tradition, this church is most likely the true location of the Christ's death and burial."
Thanks for the information.
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