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12 months ago  ::  Jun 13, 2012 - 3:54PM #61
Paladinsf
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Here:


www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2011-02-1...


is the REAL threat.


In time we will simply outgrow these foolish and hateful mythologies. Childhood's End within a 1000 yrs. and immediately if we ever encountered an alien intelligence that is not humanoid.

The World is divided into armed camps ready to commit genocide just because we can't agree on whose fairy tales to believe.
The belief in supernatural religion will kill us all if we don't outgrow it.

When I first read "End of Faith" I thought Sam went too far. The more I read and listen to these "believers" the more I wonder if maybe he wasn't right after all.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 13, 2012 - 4:03PM #62
nieciedo
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Jun 13, 2012 -- 3:54PM, Paladinsf wrote:


In time we will simply outgrow these follish and hateful mythologies. Childhood's End within a 1000 yrs. and immediately if we ever encountered an alien intelligence that is not humanoid.





Wow.


You have more faith than I do.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 13, 2012 - 4:14PM #63
Eliascomes
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Jun 13, 2012 -- 3:54PM, Paladinsf wrote:


Here:


www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2011-02-1...


is the REAL threat.


In time we will simply outgrow these follish and hateful mythologies. Childhood's End within a 1000 yrs. and immediately if we ever encountered an alien intelligence that is not humanoid.




 I don't know where you're leading this with, but I see the house of God is still separating itself further more.... But there's another report on that same page about a woman had sued her husband's doctor because her husband couldn't perform his duty while he was with another woman and someone else in the bed together. I would of thought that the woman should feel that justice has been served when her husband had died from cheating, but I guess not...  People in these days doesn't know what is morality is. No wonder Peter had them nailed himself upside down on the cross, so he can see the world a lot more better in that position.


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12 months ago  ::  Jun 13, 2012 - 4:19PM #64
Paladinsf
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Jun 13, 2012 -- 4:03PM, nieciedo wrote:


Jun 13, 2012 -- 3:54PM, Paladinsf wrote:


In time we will simply outgrow these foolish and hateful mythologies. Childhood's End within a 1000 yrs. and immediately if we ever encountered an alien intelligence that is not humanoid.





Wow.


You have more faith than I do.




Not really. I simply observe the steady decline in the belief in this nonsense over the past 1000 yrs. 


I see no reason nor any power that is apt to reverse that trend.

The World is divided into armed camps ready to commit genocide just because we can't agree on whose fairy tales to believe.
The belief in supernatural religion will kill us all if we don't outgrow it.

When I first read "End of Faith" I thought Sam went too far. The more I read and listen to these "believers" the more I wonder if maybe he wasn't right after all.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 13, 2012 - 4:40PM #65
Hoppy393
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Jun 13, 2012 -- 3:54PM, Paladinsf wrote:


Here:


www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2011-02-1...


is the REAL threat.


In time we will simply outgrow these foolish and hateful mythologies. Childhood's End within a 1000 yrs. and immediately if we ever encountered an alien intelligence that is not humanoid.



Christianity has seen its fastest growth in both total population and worldwide percentage of the population over the past 40-50 years.


Additionally, in areas where Christians make up a low percent of the population, those churches are often stronger, not weaker.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 13, 2012 - 4:52PM #66
Paladinsf
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Jun 13, 2012 -- 4:40PM, Hoppy393 wrote:

Jun 13, 2012 -- 3:54PM, Paladinsf wrote:


Here:


www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2011-02-1...


is the REAL threat.


In time we will simply outgrow these foolish and hateful mythologies. Childhood's End within a 1000 yrs. and immediately if we ever encountered an alien intelligence that is not humanoid.



Christianity has seen its fastest growth in both total population and worldwide percentage of the population over the past 40-50 years.


Additionally, in areas where Christians make up a low percent of the population, those churches are often stronger, not weaker.


So you are comparing 50 yrs to 1000?


You lost the only real advantiage you had, the sword. Once goverment no longer supported this crap and after you also lost control of education - decline set in.


I don't doubt some pockets of believers will exist. There are people now who still believe in witchcraft and astrology.


But your days of controlling society and force feeding this crap to children - gone forever. We will no longer ask or care or even KNOW what religion's position is on public policy.

The World is divided into armed camps ready to commit genocide just because we can't agree on whose fairy tales to believe.
The belief in supernatural religion will kill us all if we don't outgrow it.

When I first read "End of Faith" I thought Sam went too far. The more I read and listen to these "believers" the more I wonder if maybe he wasn't right after all.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 13, 2012 - 4:57PM #67
Ebon
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Jun 12, 2012 -- 8:03AM, Daldianus wrote:

But I guess those people never really had this famous 'personal relationship with Jesus' in the first place, right? Or have they now converted to the Devil?



Maybe they just lost their faith. People have crisises of faith all the time. Presumably, some people's faith doesn't survive through it and they choose to go do something else with their lives.


Jun 13, 2012 -- 4:52PM, Paladinsf wrote:

I don't doubt some pockets of believers will exist. There are people now who still believe in witchcraft and astrology.


But your days of controlling society and force feeding this crap to children - gone forever. We will no longer ask or care or even KNOW what religion's position is on public policy.



I suspect Christianity will eventually become like Judaism, a faith devoutly held by a minority of the population. And maybe Christianity itself would be better for that.

He who oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God. ~ Proverbs 14:31

Fiat justitia, ruat caelum

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 13, 2012 - 5:10PM #68
Ed.W
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You two dream on.

Discretion is the better part of valor.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 13, 2012 - 5:12PM #69
Hoppy393
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Jun 13, 2012 -- 4:52PM, Paladinsf wrote:

Jun 13, 2012 -- 4:40PM, Hoppy393 wrote:


Jun 13, 2012 -- 3:54PM, Paladinsf wrote:


Here:


www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2011-02-1...


is the REAL threat.


In time we will simply outgrow these foolish and hateful mythologies. Childhood's End within a 1000 yrs. and immediately if we ever encountered an alien intelligence that is not humanoid.



Christianity has seen its fastest growth in both total population and worldwide percentage of the population over the past 40-50 years.


Additionally, in areas where Christians make up a low percent of the population, those churches are often stronger, not weaker.




So you are comparing 50 yrs to 1000?


You lost the only real advantiage you had, the sword. Once goverment no longer supported this crap and after you also lost control of education - decline set in.



Yes.  I am comparing the past 50 years to the past 1000.  Christianity has experienced its largest growth then.  More converts (not children born) than in the past thousand years COMBINED.  And this without the 'sword.'




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12 months ago  ::  Jun 13, 2012 - 5:34PM #70
Paladinsf
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Jun 13, 2012 -- 5:12PM, Hoppy393 wrote:

Jun 13, 2012 -- 4:52PM, Paladinsf wrote:

Jun 13, 2012 -- 4:40PM, Hoppy393 wrote:


Jun 13, 2012 -- 3:54PM, Paladinsf wrote:


Here:


www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2011-02-1...


is the REAL threat.


In time we will simply outgrow these foolish and hateful mythologies. Childhood's End within a 1000 yrs. and immediately if we ever encountered an alien intelligence that is not humanoid.



Christianity has seen its fastest growth in both total population and worldwide percentage of the population over the past 40-50 years.


Additionally, in areas where Christians make up a low percent of the population, those churches are often stronger, not weaker.




So you are comparing 50 yrs to 1000?


You lost the only real advantiage you had, the sword. Once goverment no longer supported this crap and after you also lost control of education - decline set in.



Yes.  I am comparing the past 50 years to the past 1000.  Christianity has experienced its largest growth then.  More converts (not children born) than in the past thousand years COMBINED.  And this without the 'sword.'





Really? Combined? Got a source for that?

The World is divided into armed camps ready to commit genocide just because we can't agree on whose fairy tales to believe.
The belief in supernatural religion will kill us all if we don't outgrow it.

When I first read "End of Faith" I thought Sam went too far. The more I read and listen to these "believers" the more I wonder if maybe he wasn't right after all.
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