| 1 year ago :: Jun 06, 2012 - 2:30AM #1 | |
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The Psalms contain many beautiful and meaningful prayers. Solomon appears to be also very honest and humble in his prayers. What is the function and purpose of prayer in Judaism? Are there any Talmudic or other instructions as to the appropriate attitude of prayer? Are prayers regarded as supplications that will be "answered" in some way?
I'm very interested in your views. I'm aware there may also be a diversity of views. Everyone's opinion is most welcome. Kind regards, LilWabbit
"All things have I willed for you, and you too, for your own sake."
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| 1 year ago :: Jun 06, 2012 - 8:51AM #2 | |
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BS"D One version of Jewish prayer is a personal audience with the divine. During a formal Jewish worship service there are several ritualized parts including preparatory prayers, corporate statements of faith, readings of holy texts (recounts of the Temple service, Psalms, Torah and haftorah portions) all of which are corporate. The highlight is the personal audience with the divine. There are set ritual prayers and meditations wherein one reaches out to the divine and then one creates a personal dialogue. In this manner prayer is used as a reinforcing didactic tool, a corporate "centering" tool, a personal "centering" tool and a divine guide reacing from the generation at Sinai to today and beyond. Outside of corporate prayer are personal prayers that follow more abbreviated and more personal formats. Awareness of and respect for Creation is primary IMHO. One of the best descriptions of Jewish prayer I've ever seen was the forward to a Chumash written by the late Chief Rabbi of the UK. In addition to this are numerous treatments of prayer in Talmud and the later commentaries which provide great in-depth insights from many perspectives. |
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| 1 year ago :: Jun 06, 2012 - 10:11AM #3 | |
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It is hard to summarize all of the laws, expectations and intricacies of prayer in a simple post. I will try to touch on a variety of ideas and maybe present some external resources. Prayer in Judaism is a way to reach out to the divine both by isolating and purifying ourselves and our thoughts and by connecting to a community and sharing in a sense of national awareness of the divine. This godly presence, then, is both internal and external and the energy and devotion required demand that we turn within and without as we try to focus. Prayer comes in many forms -- some are simple blessings, of which there are three general headings: 1. blessings of praise/acknowledgment 2. blessings on performing a commandment 3. blessings over enjoyment (requesting permission) and there is a huge body of work discussing each and every prayer/blessing and explaining into which category it falls and what the reprecussions of that are. Prayer is also composed of psalms or other biblical passages and explicative liturgical pieces which embody more complex thoughts, wishes and ideas. Some of these are ultimately tied to blessings and some aren't. Some have developed over time or have been added to the set order or the prayer service and some are in a state very similar to when they were first codified by the sages of the talmud. There are also myriad pages written with laws and requirements for the intention during prayer, for the personal qualities of one who is a public representative during prayer and on and on. Here is something to read through which might help a little www.mechon-mamre.org/jewfaq/prayer.htm but it only scratches the surface. |
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| 1 year ago :: Jun 06, 2012 - 12:41PM #4 | |
Thank you for even skimming the surface. These two explanations particularly resonated with me: On formal prayer: Many people today do not see the need for regular, formal prayer. "I pray when I feel inspired to, when it is meaningful to me", they say. This attitude overlooks two important things: the purpose of prayer, and the need for practice. One purpose of prayer is to increase your awareness of God in your life and the role that God plays in your life. If you only pray when you feel inspired (that is, when you are already aware of God), then you will not increase your awareness of God. Learning praying and prayerful attitude by practice: In addition, if you want to do something well, you have to practice it continually, even when you do not feel like doing it. This is as true of prayer as it is of playing a sport, playing a musical instrument, or writing. The sense of humility and awe of God that is essential to proper prayer does not come easily to modern man, and will not simply come to you when you feel the need to pray.... If you pray regularly, you will learn how to express yourself in prayer. I'm still in the process of reading your link and its sublinks. Kind regards, LilWabbit
"All things have I willed for you, and you too, for your own sake."
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| 1 year ago :: Jun 07, 2012 - 3:50AM #5 | |
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Buns, ffb et al, Any prayers or blessings that you find particularly transforming / cleansing / meaningful whenever you recite it in the right spirit? If this is too personal a question, feel free to ignore it. But those who do not mind sharing, I would be obliged if you shared an English translation of that prayer even though it may not do justice to the original Hebrew or melody. A youtube video will do fine too. Best, Wabbit
"All things have I willed for you, and you too, for your own sake."
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| 1 year ago :: Jun 07, 2012 - 11:55AM #6 | |
Here is Nishmat in English (though it loses the poetry of the Hebrew) www.jonathanpollard.org/2003/071103a.htm here is a the aleinu prayer with the hebrew -- the line breaks are purely for the publishing -- they are not related to the text www.chailifeline.org/siddur/full/?pageIn... and baruch she'amar www.ouisrael.org/tidbits/detail/Baruch-S... You can find mp3 files of some of these but tunes are often local. The backstories are fascinating for these 3. |
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| 1 year ago :: Jun 07, 2012 - 1:42PM #7 | |
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Lilwabbit The Lord of the Universe who reigned |
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| 1 year ago :: Jun 07, 2012 - 2:02PM #8 | |
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wabbit: What is the function and purpose of prayer in Judaism?
The Hebrew word for prayer is tefilah. It is derived from the root Pe-Lamed-Lamed and the word l'hitpalel, meaning to judge oneself. This surprising word origin provides insight into the purpose of Jewish prayer. The most important part of any Jewish prayer, whether it be a prayer of petition, of thanksgiving, of praise of G-d, or of confession, is the introspection it provides, the moment that we spend looking inside ourselves, seeing our role in the universe and our relationship to G-d. That is very different from the English word derived from the Latin to pray, which means to implore or beg. It means to beg God to fulfill our needs and desires. Begging is very different from the root of the Hebrew word for prayer, which implies a more difficult activity of self-evaluation, a more constructive activity. It requires us to look within ourselves and ask: have I been living my potential, have I used my God-given gifts properly, are there things that should be more important or less important to me. IOW, are my priorities in order. |
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| 1 year ago :: Jun 07, 2012 - 3:37PM #9 | |
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kingdom: ... Yeshua was 100% human. He did not have two natures because He never claimed to be devine. Most of what He taught came from G-ds original teaching in the Old Testament.
For 300 years after Yeshua's death there was disagrement, disagreement between Jewish followers the temple lead by James the brother of Yeshua and those in the churches started by Paul who wanted to bring all to know Yeshua including Pagens who He tried unsuccesfully to convert. Not quite. For 300 years there was disagreement as to how to answer the very confusing question about the nature of Jesus: God or man, what part God and what part man, the relationship of Jesus and God. This is distinct from the dispute early on between the original Jewish Christians of Jerusalem and Paul. That dispute was over Paul's commission to the gentiles and his advice that they didn't have to be Jewish to join the Jesus people. The trinitarian explanation most certainly did not arise with Paul. There is even some question that Paul saw Jesus as God. He describes Jesus as being taken up to be with God on his death, the adoption by God of Jesus. He never calls Jesus God. It is true that the churches started by Paul did morph Jesus into God Himself, probably sycretizing Jewish traditons with their own pagan backgrounds in which gods appearing as men were not unusual. It was these two groups whose disagreement led to war, Pagen led by Constantine and Jews who were eventually slaughtered or ejected from the temple the faith everything. That sentence as written is incomprehensible. This was all man made it wasn't G-d or Yeshua who made war or killed so many Jews. Most here agree there is but one G-d, what I don't understand is how a man like Yeshua who continued G-d's teaching that we should love one another could be so hated. If you would put your listening ears on you would "hear" that we are not hating the historical Jesus but the peripheral history that surrounds Jesus, a history perpetrated by those using his name. The personal animosity against which you are protesting must have something to do with your earlier posts and your language as suggested by river. |
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| 1 year ago :: Jun 07, 2012 - 4:14PM #10 | |
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Sorry everyone. Wrong thread. |
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