Jun 4, 2012 -- 10:34AM, Jupiter6208 wrote:

Jun 4, 2012 -- 8:30AM, Lilwabbit wrote:

Jun 4, 2012 -- 8:20AM, Jupiter6208 wrote:

Jun 4, 2012 -- 7:13AM, in_my_opinion wrote:

Jun 4, 2012 -- 6:48AM, Jupiter6208 wrote:

I really like the freedom to go as i wish.

Are you planning to go to the Holy Land soon?

probably next year. sounds like not being Bahá'í gives me more freedom.

Heh, yes! In terms of visiting the World Center at your best convenience. But not in terms of what you will get to see!

For instance, no archives building for you which is basically a museum of Bahá'í history!

Basically i can go to any museum in the world without needing membership except the Bahá'í um Museum? 

You're free to apply for membership.  Just kidding. I seriously believe that a person shouldn't be a Bahá'í until he or she is sincerely persuaded, without any external pressure or a personally tempting carrot, by the truth of Bahá'u'lláh.

Jun 4, 2012 -- 12:01AM, in_my_opinion wrote:

Besides pilgrimage, Bahá'ís can go on three day visits to Israel. That also requires application to and permission for us, from the World Centre.

People who are not Bahá'ís do not have those restrictions; they are welcome to go and see the Holy sites, tour the gardens, visit the World Centre and maybe meet its staff.

However, as teaching the Faith is not allowed for us there, because the Blessed Beauty said not to do so; you may have to go online for some information.

that's an interesting point.

if an Israeli asks a specific question "when was Baha'u'llah born?" for example, can a Baha'i garden staff answer their question?

are the Baha'i garden staff bound to the same restrictions when the person asking the question is not Israeli?

Jun 4, 2012 -- 6:01PM, world citizen wrote:

P.S.  Gardeners working the lower terraces are non-Baha'i citizens of Israel.  Only the upper terraces are worked by volunteer Baha'i staff.

that sounds like terrace discrimination to me

if an Israeli asks "is Baha'u'llah the messiah?"