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1 year ago  ::  May 16, 2012 - 9:40PM #91
Iwantamotto
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Kwinters:  If Jesus is omnipotent and God is omnipotent and they get into a wrass-lin' match, who wins between two omnipotent beings?


Yahweh cheated by turning Jesus mortal.  Of course, as resurrection has already been established as an option prior, Jesus just uses the trope to wiggle out of losing.  :P


Blu:  Not a threesome, a sixsome?  Not the Trinity but the Sexuality?


LOL.

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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 8:15AM #92
jlb32168
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May 16, 2012 -- 7:41AM, jlb32168 wrote:

May 16, 2012 -- 7:14AM, Blü wrote:

So you're going with the commitee [sic] hypothesis.


I think you meant committee and you can’t have a committee of one.


May 16, 2012 -- 7:14AM, Blü wrote:

So there was no omnipotence when Jesus was on earth or when he was dead.  If not, explain why not.


How did you arrive at this conclusion?


YooHoo! Blu!??

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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 8:46AM #93
Adelphe
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May 16, 2012 -- 8:59AM, Blü wrote:


Adelphe


"to be acknowledged in two natures, inconfusedly, unchangeably, indivisibly, inseparably; the distinction of natures being by no means taken away by the union, but rather the property of each nature being preserved, and concurring in one Person"


Except of course when you're dead.


Or are you saying he was never really dead?




For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, because they formerly did not obey, when God's patience waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through water. (1 Pete 3)

Unless I am convinced by Scripture and plain reason, my conscience is captive to the Word of God. I cannot and I will not retract anything, for to go against conscience would be neither right nor safe.  Here I stand.  I can do no other.  God help me.  Amen.
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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 9:45AM #94
Blü
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Adelphe


So he didn't really die.


So the resurrection wasn't a resurrection.
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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 9:49AM #95
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If I may, Mme. Adelphe,


May 17, 2012 -- 9:45AM, Blü wrote:

Adelphe, So he didn't really die.  So the resurrection wasn't a resurrection.


Christ’s body died – just like ours does.


BTW, can you address my other two points?  My feelings are becomming hurt.


May 16, 2012 -- 7:14AM, Blü wrote:

So you're going with the commitee [sic] hypothesis.


I think you meant committee and you can’t have a committee of one.


May 16, 2012 -- 7:14AM, Blü wrote:

So there was no omnipotence when Jesus was on earth or when he was dead.  If not, explain why not.


How did you arrive at this conclusion?

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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 10:02AM #96
Adelphe
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May 17, 2012 -- 9:49AM, jlb32168 wrote:


If I may, Mme. Adelphe,



You indeed may.


May 17, 2012 -- 9:45AM, Blü wrote:

Christ’s body died – just like ours does.


BTW, can you address my other two points?  My feelings are becomming hurt.



LOL

Unless I am convinced by Scripture and plain reason, my conscience is captive to the Word of God. I cannot and I will not retract anything, for to go against conscience would be neither right nor safe.  Here I stand.  I can do no other.  God help me.  Amen.
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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 2:38PM #97
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May 17, 2012 -- 9:45AM, Blü wrote:


Adelphe


So he didn't really die.


So the resurrection wasn't a resurrection.




Of course it was not really a resurrection.  An Omni Omni would not be able to die.

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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 2:55PM #98
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May 17, 2012 -- 2:38PM, mainecaptain wrote:


May 17, 2012 -- 9:45AM, Blü wrote:


Adelphe


So he didn't really die.


So the resurrection wasn't a resurrection.




Of course it was not really a resurrection.  An Omni Omni would not be able to die.




Omni Omni is unlimited power.  Inability to die would be a limit on the power.
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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 3:02PM #99
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May 17, 2012 -- 2:55PM, lope wrote:

Omni Omni is unlimited power. Inability to die would be a limit on the power.


While the inability to die could be semantically described as limiting, it seems silly to describe it that way practically speaking.

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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 3:17PM #100
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May 17, 2012 -- 3:02PM, jlb32168 wrote:


May 17, 2012 -- 2:55PM, lope wrote:

Omni Omni is unlimited power. Inability to die would be a limit on the power.


While the inability to die could be semantically described as limiting, it seems silly to describe it that way practically speaking.





Perhaps but practically speaking  Omni Omni would include the power to become a mortal meaning becoming an entity that could suffer physcial death and then be resurrected by the spiritual being that is Omni Omni.
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