May 20, 2012 -- 3:59PM, Eliascomes wrote:

May 16, 2012 -- 12:51PM, Ed_3 wrote:

May 14, 2012 -- 4:43AM, Eliascomes wrote:

 I remember watching a movie while back in the days. It was about school kids were being bully by the most popular kids of this school. A new student came to the school and saw what was going on, so he started eliminating the popular kids of this school; Once all were eliminated, the kids that were being bullied, had started bullying the weaker kids. The new student saw what was happenning and he went and blow up the hold school to solve the problem. So the fearsome creatures were just a learning process.

*snicker* Um, and how does that answer my question of: Why would a loving God create such fearsome and ferocious creatures?

 We need to be kept on our toes at all times. It brings us closer to God. Without our life being in danger, we have tendency of provoking or oppressing others. Now the ones that has replaced the dinosaurs in our times, are the politicians.

    

Jeremiah 20:4
For this is what the LORD says: ‘I will make you a terror to yourself and to all your friends; with your own eyes you will see them fall by the sword of their enemies. I will give all Judah into the hands of the king of Babylon, who will carry them away to Babylon or put them to the sword.

Elias, you seem to give answers that seem like non-answers on the surface, but if one reads your answers a couple of times, they might see the subtle meaning that you are putting in your answers.

But if I'm following what you are saying, I think that animals being fearsome and ferocious can be a learning process only up to a point. However, the learning process doesn't account for the 'equipment' that God has endowed some animals with...when considering the viewpoint that God created all things.(Revelation 4:11)

For example, recently, I saw this movie called, "We Bought a Zoo"(really good movie, btw), and in that that movie, one of the main characters, Kelly Foster(who was played by Scarlett Johansson) said:

You know tigers have a special sensors in the front of their two inch canines. They can actually detect the pulse in your aorta. So when they attack, they bite you, take your pulse with their teeth, reposition those suckers and boom! There goes your carotid.

www.moviequotesandmore.com/we-bought-a-z...

Also, I looked up that information and in an article that I found, I found this under the subtitle, DENTITION:

3.  Tigers have the largest canines of all big cat species ranging in size from 6.4 to 7.6 centimeters (2.5 to 3.0 in) in length. The canines have abundant pressure-sensing nerves that enable the tiger to identify the location needed to sever the neck of its prey.

Also, under the same subtitle it says:

4.  The back teeth of the tiger are called carnassials which enables the tiger to shear meat from their prey like knife blades. They swallow large-sheared pieces of meat whole.

5.  Tigers are capable of penetrating deeply into their prey because of the large gap between the carnassials (back teeth) and the canines hold prey tightly.

And under the subtitle DIGESTION it says:

1.  The process of converting meat to protein (needed for energy) is significantly less complicated in carnivores than it is to convert grass to protein as some herbivores require. Carnivores do not require the vast amount of microbes (microscopic bacteria) living in their intestines to break down indigestible plant cellulose. Therefore tigers and other carnivores have small and light weight stomachs that do not hinder them when they are accelerating quickly to chase prey.

Additionally, under the subtitle TONGUE it says.

1.  The tiger's tongue is covered with numerous small, sharp, rear-facing projections called papillae. These papillae gives the tongue is rough, rasping texture and is designed to help strip feathers, fur and meat from prey.

And further up in the article under the subtitle, LEGS, FEET & CLAWS it says:

5. The claws of the tiger are up to 10 centimeters (4 in) in length and are used to grasp and hold onto prey. . .

And under the subtitle, HEAD & COLLARBONE, the article makes the point that:

2.  Tigers' powerful jaw muscles are attached to a bony ridge that lay on top of the skull called the sagittal crest. These muscles function to rapidly clamp down on prey with crushing force.

www.seaworld.org/animal-info/info-books/...

And the same thing would apply to the information about dragons from the animal.discovery.com video that you provided. Why would God create animals that could chew on platinum and breath fire out of their mouths? Also, in Job 41:14, why would God equip Leviathan with "fearsome teeth" and the ability to shot fire out of it's mouth, according to verses 18-21, if his creation was originally designed to be made up of peaceful and docile creatures?

Therefore, why are predators(such as tigers and the supposedly extinct dragons and the like) physically equipped and designed in such a way to be fearsome, ferocious, and to be perfect killers and perfect carnivores? 

Plus, from the viewpoint that God created all creatures, I don't understand why God didn't create a tiger for example...more like a big bunny rabbit. Or a dragan or a leviathan more like an apatosaurus? I mean, why do we have both tigers and antelopes...and why did we once have both dragons and apatosauruses? Also, why didn't the apatosauruses go through a learning process...or even a physical metamorphosis to became something more dangerous and more fearsome? Same thing with deer, antelopes, and bunny rabbits.

May 20, 2012 -- 7:53PM, Eliascomes wrote:

 Any animal can be fearsome or ferocious. It depend on your environment and your encounters with them. Some people thinks that dragons or dinosaurs are beautiful creatures, but some doesn't think that is so. As that ole' saying,"beauty is in the eyes of the beholder." I know some people have phobias against rodents. I myself think that they are pleasant creatures, but some people will run and holler like an elephant from them. But God notice that the serpent was very cunning and wasn't going to use its size and teeth for good, for an example only, like chopping firewood for the ones whom were cast out from the garden. so the lord had brought the serpent down in size so that man can handle them. In our time it seem that God brought them down slowly, but in God eyes, it was done in seconds.

 www.insideedition.com/news/8061/man-kill...

2 Peter 3:8
But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.

Genesis 3:4
“You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman.

Yes, but you did not address what I said about how animals are physically equipped and designed to be ferocious killers.

Also, if God had noticed that the serpent was very cunning and wasn't going to use its size and teeth for good, then God had designed the serpent to be that way.

 Ed_3

Yes, but you did not address what I said about how animals are physically equipped and designed to be ferocious killers.

 To a mouse, we might seem very ferocious; But if they know God, they might wonder why God created us to be so fercious, cunning killers. A mouse probably also be thinking how can we kill them while they're trying to survive for food, and tossed their bodies into the trash and give each other a pat on the back for catching and killing them, without any sympathy or remorse.

Also, if God had noticed that the serpent was very cunning and wasn't going to use its size and teeth for good, then God had designed the serpent to be that way.

He had redesign the serpent.

May 21, 2012 -- 9:09AM, Iwantamotto wrote:

But it sounds like the only thing that happened is that God took the lizard's legs off.  That really doesn't make it less deadly.

OR PLUCKED THE DRAGONS WINGS

May 21, 2012 -- 11:22AM, davelaw40 wrote:

May 21, 2012 -- 9:09AM, Iwantamotto wrote:

But it sounds like the only thing that happened is that God took the lizard's legs off.  That really doesn't make it less deadly.

OR PLUCKED THE DRAGONS WINGS

Yes, but they still breathed fired and were dangerous. Also, thanks to 57, he provided information that showed that the Bible says that winged dragons still existed after the fall:

In the Authorized version of scripture we find Isaiah twice mentioning the “fiery flying serpent.” Egypt is called the place of the “lion, the viper and fiery flying serpent,” (30:6). This fits with classical authors describing pterosaur populations in Egypt and Arabia. Goertzen notes: “The Hebrew word, m’opheph Jpvfm, is a polal participle; a form used only by Isaiah when describing the reptilian saraph. The polal indicates an intensive of the root pvf ooph that means to fly or flutter. The imperfect form of the polal is found in Genesis 1:20, ‘flying creatures that flutter to and fro’ and Isaiah 6:2 ‘seraphim’ (the same word as the reptiles here used for angelic creatures) that fly to and fro.’” (Goertzen, John, “The Bible and Pterosaurs,” 1998.)

www.genesispark.com/exhibits/evidence/sc...

Also see:

May 10, 2012 -- 12:35PM, 57 wrote:

I'm surprised that you being such a biblical scholar think that is the only verse that mentions dinosaurs.  Click here and learn a little. 

The thing is, is that your faith in evolutionism will be destroyed when you actually look at the evidence.  Go ahead, click on the two links.  

I alo encourage the christians who post here to visit the two sites I linked.  Especially the second site.  The amount of evidence is amazing.

community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/4...(post #33)

Also, my question from post #101 still stands: Why was one of God's creation(dinosaurs) dying off slowly?