Do we pray to same God?

57

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May 4, 2012 -- 4:09PM, Seefan wrote:

May 4, 2012 -- 3:23PM, 57 wrote:

In the above you mentioned a lot about jesus being the reflection of God....The truth is Jesus is not a reflection but rather the radiance. Heb 1:3

No problem using radiance to discribe Jesus although I define radiance the same as google defines it ... radiance - Light or heat as emitted or 'reflected' by something. So radiance is a reflection of something. In the case of Jesus it was the attributes of God ...

At least I'm glad you finally concur that Jesus is not God but the radiance (reflection) of God ...

You used the wrong dictionary. The word used is Strong's 541. "properly someone who literally shines"

Reflection is not the intent.

Will you now concede Jesus is God?

57

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May 4, 2012 -- 5:07PM, amcolph wrote:

May 4, 2012 -- 3:24PM, 57 wrote:

Once again you continue to lie. I never made that assertion. You made it for me.

Pooh! You made it with respect to Muslims in this very thread. You have made it with respect to Liberal Christians in the past. I'm just trying to find out what your limits are. Shall we include Catholics? Mormons? Jehovah's Witnesses?

Are you really that ignorant on the subject? Seriously amcolph, are you?

According to the mormons Jesus and Lucifer were created beings and brothers. It is OBVIOUS they are following a different Jesus then pesented in the bible. The Muslims say Jesus never died on the cross. YOU say the bible is full of errors and can't be trusted. You tell me amcolph.

amcolph

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May 4, 2012 -- 5:17PM, 57 wrote:

Are you really that ignorant on the subject? Seriously amcolph, are you?

According to the mormons Jesus and Lucifer were created beings and brothers. It is OBVIOUS they are following a different Jesus then pesented in the bible. The Muslims say Jesus never died on the cross.

What about the Catholics and the Orthodox churches? Some of the latter are Monophysite. Is that allowed?

YOU say the bible is full of errors and can't be trusted.

No I don't. I just disagree with you about what it says. See?

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Seefan

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May 4, 2012 -- 5:13PM, 57 wrote:

May 4, 2012 -- 4:09PM, Seefan wrote:

May 4, 2012 -- 3:23PM, 57 wrote:
In the above you mentioned a lot about jesus being the reflection of God....The truth is Jesus is not a reflection but rather the radiance. Heb 1:3

No problem using radiance to discribe Jesus although I define radiance the same as google defines it ... radiance - Light or heat as emitted or 'reflected' by something. So radiance is a reflection of something. In the case of Jesus it was the attributes of God ...

At least I'm glad you finally concur that Jesus is not God but the radiance (reflection) of God ...

You used the wrong dictionary. The word used is Strong's 541. "properly someone who literally shines"

Reflection is not the intent.

Will you now concede Jesus is God?

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Ah 57, you're too much ... lol

Explain to me how someone who 'literally shines' could be construed as God. Again, I'm sorry but you must have such little understanding of what would be necessary to be God! I'm sure if you mediate and ask in your mediation for a deeper understanding of spiritual matters you'll see the truth if you approach the subject with an open mind!

Jesus Christ means the "Anointed One"! He was anointed with the Holy Spirit. Of course He'd shine from within and without and would be seem as such by those who had the spiritual eyes to see and understand. That's a far cry from being God.

But you are very selective in what you try to use as proof. If you read on Strong continues .... is only used in Heb 1:3 where it refers to Christ's eternal radiance – supremely reflecting the effulgent glory of the Godhead!

You notice again reflecting?

The sciences of this world are droplets of reality; if then they lead not to reality, what fruit can come of illusion? By the one true God! If learning be not a means of access to Him, the Most Manifest, it is nothing but evident loss. (Baha'i Faith) As to life's problems Einstein said it well - we can't solve a problem using the same consciousness that created it ...

Ed.W

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May 4, 2012 -- 5:22PM, amcolph wrote:

Some of the latter are Monophysite. Is that allowed?

No

Discretion is the better part of valor.

amcolph

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May 4, 2012 -- 5:31PM, Ed.W wrote:

May 4, 2012 -- 5:22PM, amcolph wrote:

Some of the latter are Monophysite. Is that allowed?

No

So pretty much all we have left are "biblical" Protestants and Roman Catholics who worship the Christian God. Will it be both?

I'll leave you and 57 to work out that problem. My money's on 57.

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57 is Roman Catholic

Discretion is the better part of valor.

amcolph

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May 4, 2012 -- 5:41PM, Ed.W wrote:

57 is Roman Catholic

ROFLMAO!

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57

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May 4, 2012 -- 5:29PM, Seefan wrote:

May 4, 2012 -- 5:13PM, 57 wrote:

May 4, 2012 -- 4:09PM, Seefan wrote:

May 4, 2012 -- 3:23PM, 57 wrote:
In the above you mentioned a lot about jesus being the reflection of God....The truth is Jesus is not a reflection but rather the radiance. Heb 1:3

No problem using radiance to discribe Jesus although I define radiance the same as google defines it ... radiance - Light or heat as emitted or 'reflected' by something. So radiance is a reflection of something. In the case of Jesus it was the attributes of God ...

At least I'm glad you finally concur that Jesus is not God but the radiance (reflection) of God ...

You used the wrong dictionary. The word used is Strong's 541. "properly someone who literally shines"

Reflection is not the intent.

Will you now concede Jesus is God?

Why do you remain ignorant? I provided you with the original Greek meaning and you provided me with hand waving.

Seefan

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May 5, 2012 -- 11:07AM, 57 wrote:

May 4, 2012 -- 5:29PM, Seefan wrote:

May 4, 2012 -- 5:13PM, 57 wrote:

May 4, 2012 -- 4:09PM, Seefan wrote:

May 4, 2012 -- 3:23PM, 57 wrote:
In the above you mentioned a lot about jesus being the reflection of God....The truth is Jesus is not a reflection but rather the radiance. Heb 1:3

No problem using radiance to discribe Jesus although I define radiance the same as google defines it ... radiance - Light or heat as emitted or 'reflected' by something. So radiance is a reflection of something. In the case of Jesus it was the attributes of God ...

At least I'm glad you finally concur that Jesus is not God but the radiance (reflection) of God ...

You used the wrong dictionary. The word used is Strong's 541. "properly someone who literally shines"

Reflection is not the intent.

Will you now concede Jesus is God?

Why do you remain ignorant? I provided you with the original Greek meaning and you provided me with hand waving.

Hand waving??? Ignorant??? I used the same String's 541 you used to show through their words the truth of what I say. I'm not the one espousing doctrine, even against scripture and logic. Check it out yourself and think on your own. But I suspect you are so steeped in the doctrine you follow that you can't see anything else so I'm going to leave it at that ...

It's been interesting to say the least ...

The sciences of this world are droplets of reality; if then they lead not to reality, what fruit can come of illusion? By the one true God! If learning be not a means of access to Him, the Most Manifest, it is nothing but evident loss. (Baha'i Faith) As to life's problems Einstein said it well - we can't solve a problem using the same consciousness that created it ...

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