Post Reply
Page 5 of 8  •  Prev 1 ... 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next
Switch to Forum Live View Do we pray to same G-d?
1 year ago  ::  May 02, 2012 - 12:19PM #41
vra
Posts: 5,763

May 2, 2012 -- 1:09AM, Lilwabbit wrote:


May 1, 2012 -- 1:59PM, vra wrote:


Darwin's main theory included natural selection, random genetic drift, and mutation, although his terminology with the last two was different (mostly using the term "variation") since so little was known about genetics during his time. 




In accordance with Darwin's original terminology, the term "natural selection" refers to the cumulative effect on populations of phenotypical environmental impact, and the term "mutation" means spontaneous genetic change, i.e., any allele possessed by an offspring that is not present in either parent. Natural selection, in this specific sense, can never, under any circumstances, be the source of complexification. This is because natural selection decreases genetic diversity (or variability). Natural selection favours the proliferation of (positively selects) certain existing genotypes by reducing or eliminating (negatively selecting) other (competing) forms.


I was using the analogy of natural selection in the above to indicate that certain spiritual truths in an ancient book may be valid. If they survive thousands of years as relevant notions, yield good results and remain genuinely true to hundreds of millions of people (as opposed to traditionally true or true only due to indoctrination), it suggests validity in a purely objective sense. If certain beliefs produce only harm, conflict, empty rites and destruction, they warrant discarding and necessarily fade away after a critically long period of germinating trouble and tension.


Kind regards,


LilWabbit





Thanks for clarifying what you were saying.  BTW, for what it's worth, I'm an anthropologist who's been retired (or is it retarded?) for nine years.


And the kindest regards to you as well,


Vern

Quick Reply
Cancel
1 year ago  ::  May 02, 2012 - 12:29PM #42
vra
Posts: 5,763

Theologians tend to use the term "variations" rather than "contradictions", largely because one can generally not be absolutely certain whether a variation is actually a contradition or not.  When we run across these variations, and there are plenty of them, one can never be certain whether there's a thread that may run through them that may connect them.  Therefore, either position is untenable, imo, and I simply am not going to assume they contradict, but neither am I going to assume that they don't.

Quick Reply
Cancel
1 year ago  ::  May 02, 2012 - 12:48PM #43
Lilwabbit
Posts: 2,441

May 2, 2012 -- 12:19PM, vra wrote:


May 2, 2012 -- 1:09AM, Lilwabbit wrote:


May 1, 2012 -- 1:59PM, vra wrote:


Darwin's main theory included natural selection, random genetic drift, and mutation, although his terminology with the last two was different (mostly using the term "variation") since so little was known about genetics during his time. 




In accordance with Darwin's original terminology, the term "natural selection" refers to the cumulative effect on populations of phenotypical environmental impact, and the term "mutation" means spontaneous genetic change, i.e., any allele possessed by an offspring that is not present in either parent. Natural selection, in this specific sense, can never, under any circumstances, be the source of complexification. This is because natural selection decreases genetic diversity (or variability). Natural selection favours the proliferation of (positively selects) certain existing genotypes by reducing or eliminating (negatively selecting) other (competing) forms.


I was using the analogy of natural selection in the above to indicate that certain spiritual truths in an ancient book may be valid. If they survive thousands of years as relevant notions, yield good results and remain genuinely true to hundreds of millions of people (as opposed to traditionally true or true only due to indoctrination), it suggests validity in a purely objective sense. If certain beliefs produce only harm, conflict, empty rites and destruction, they warrant discarding and necessarily fade away after a critically long period of germinating trouble and tension.


Kind regards,


LilWabbit





Thanks for clarifying what you were saying.  BTW, for what it's worth, I'm an anthropologist who's been retired (or is it retarded?) for nine years.


And the kindest regards to you as well,


Vern




I've always admired the work of conscientious physical anthropologists. And you come across everything but retarded.


Pleasure to make your acquaintance...


Wabbit

"All things have I willed for you, and you too, for your own sake."
Quick Reply
Cancel
1 year ago  ::  May 02, 2012 - 1:06PM #44
vra
Posts: 5,763

May 2, 2012 -- 12:48PM, Lilwabbit wrote:


I've always admired the work of conscientious physical anthropologists. And you come across everything but retarded.


Pleasure to make your acquaintance...


Wabbit





Well, Wabbit, I'm gonna disappoint ya because I "converted" from physical to cultural while doing my undergrad work.  ;(


And it's a pleasure to make your acquantance as well, and I enjoy your posts.


Vern

Quick Reply
Cancel
1 year ago  ::  May 02, 2012 - 1:54PM #45
JAstor
Posts: 3,960

May 2, 2012 -- 1:06PM, vra wrote:


May 2, 2012 -- 12:48PM, Lilwabbit wrote:


I've always admired the work of conscientious physical anthropologists. And you come across everything but retarded.


Pleasure to make your acquaintance...


Wabbit





Well, Wabbit, I'm gonna disappoint ya because I "converted" from physical to cultural while doing my undergrad work.  ;(


And it's a pleasure to make your acquantance as well, and I enjoy your posts.


Vern




Does anyone else find it strange that we have a Wabbit and a Squirrel debating each other? (With a Rocketsquirrel watching in the wings?) What is this, Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom?!

Quick Reply
Cancel
1 year ago  ::  May 02, 2012 - 2:05PM #46
rocketjsquirell
Posts: 11,983

Jastor


VRA is using a skunk icon not a squirell icon. you should know that skunk it is Pepe lePew


for more images of Pepe


www.google.com/search?q=pepe+le+pew&hl=e...

Quick Reply
Cancel
1 year ago  ::  May 02, 2012 - 2:13PM #47
Lilwabbit
Posts: 2,441

Squirrel and I disagree on many things but we have a silent underlying agreement that only true rodents can appreciate (albeit rabbits are not technically rodents).

"All things have I willed for you, and you too, for your own sake."
Quick Reply
Cancel
1 year ago  ::  May 02, 2012 - 2:54PM #48
vra
Posts: 5,763

May 2, 2012 -- 1:54PM, JAstor wrote:


May 2, 2012 -- 1:06PM, vra wrote:


May 2, 2012 -- 12:48PM, Lilwabbit wrote:


I've always admired the work of conscientious physical anthropologists. And you come across everything but retarded.


Pleasure to make your acquaintance...


Wabbit





Well, Wabbit, I'm gonna disappoint ya because I "converted" from physical to cultural while doing my undergrad work.  ;(


And it's a pleasure to make your acquantance as well, and I enjoy your posts.


Vern




Does anyone else find it strange that we have a Wabbit and a Squirrel debating each other? (With a Rocketsquirrel watching in the wings?) What is this, Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom?!





Well J, I have to hand it to you that you're so observant.


Wait a minute-- even the squirrel, which is far less intelligent than a skunk, noticed that you screwed up-- again!


 

Quick Reply
Cancel
1 year ago  ::  May 02, 2012 - 3:16PM #49
JAstor
Posts: 3,960

May 2, 2012 -- 2:05PM, rocketjsquirell wrote:


Jastor


VRA is using a skunk icon not a squirell icon. you should know that skunk it is Pepe lePew


for more images of Pepe


www.google.com/search?q=pepe+le+pew&hl=e...




See how limiting the internet is? If our avatars smelled like they look I would have figured that out... On second thought, better that they don't. 

Quick Reply
Cancel
1 year ago  ::  May 02, 2012 - 3:18PM #50
JAstor
Posts: 3,960

May 2, 2012 -- 2:13PM, Lilwabbit wrote:


Squirrel and I disagree on many things but we have a silent underlying agreement that only true rodents can appreciate (albeit rabbits are not technically rodents).




Ok, I'll have to look for some type of rodent name or picture then. Is Bugs Bunny too similar to Lil Wabbit?

Quick Reply
Cancel
Page 5 of 8  •  Prev 1 ... 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next
 
    Viewing this thread :: 0 registered and 1 guest
    No registered users viewing
    Advertisement

    Beliefnet On Facebook