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2 years ago  ::  Apr 27, 2012 - 8:53AM #31
Marcion
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Another question.


If the interactions between Jesus and the Pharisees as stated in the NT were true why would Jesus found a priest-based religion?



History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes.


-Thomas Jefferson to Alexander von Humboldt, Dec. 6, 1813.

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 27, 2012 - 9:10AM #32
Blü
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Costrel


I find it interesting that a book could have been considered apocryphal not because of its doctrine or questions about its authorship, but because of its verbosity which, as Gregory noted, "bred weariness" in its readers.


No offence to our Mormon friends, but the Book of Mormon is written in a desperately awful pseudo-KJV style and its sustained, lavish and deeply irritating prolixity is a swingeing condemnation of the author (whoever he be thought to be).

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 29, 2012 - 3:54PM #33
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Apr 23, 2012 -- 9:04AM, Ed.W wrote:


Apr 23, 2012 -- 8:44AM, Marcion wrote:


My NT would be thinner than Jefferson's and would not contain the letters of Paul nor the Gospel of John.




Oh, well.  That was a short thread.





Which one of Jefferson's are you talking about? He apparently wrote (edited) two, and both contained the devil, miracles, the resurection, etc...

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 29, 2012 - 5:36PM #34
Marcion
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Apr 27, 2012 -- 9:10AM, Blü wrote:

Costrel


I find it interesting that a book could have been considered apocryphal not because of its doctrine or questions about its authorship, but because of its verbosity which, as Gregory noted, "bred weariness" in its readers.


No offence to our Mormon friends, but the Book of Mormon is written in a desperately awful pseudo-KJV style and its sustained, lavish and deeply irritating prolixity is a swingeing condemnation of the author (whoever he be thought to be).


The book of mormon is as much doo doo as the bible.


People believe anything that is in writing.

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 29, 2012 - 11:14PM #35
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Burnman


I haven't heard of two Jefferson bibles. 


The one I have has no witches or resurrection.  At a quick glance, it's the same as the text given here (links towards the foot of the linked page).


If you can point out any witches or resurrections, I'll have learnt something.


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2 years ago  ::  Apr 29, 2012 - 11:21PM #36
Blü
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Marcion


The book of mormon is as much doo doo as the bible.


My complaint on this occasion is addressed to the style.  It reflects so badly on the author as to deprive the writings of credibility before the show even starts.


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2 years ago  ::  Apr 30, 2012 - 4:55AM #37
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Apr 29, 2012 -- 5:36PM, Marcion wrote:

Apr 27, 2012 -- 9:10AM, Blü wrote:


Costrel


I find it interesting that a book could have been considered apocryphal not because of its doctrine or questions about its authorship, but because of its verbosity which, as Gregory noted, "bred weariness" in its readers.


No offence to our Mormon friends, but the Book of Mormon is written in a desperately awful pseudo-KJV style and its sustained, lavish and deeply irritating prolixity is a swingeing condemnation of the author (whoever he be thought to be).




The book of mormon is as much doo doo as the bible.


People believe anything that is in writing.




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2 years ago  ::  Apr 30, 2012 - 8:18AM #38
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Apr 29, 2012 -- 11:21PM, Blü wrote:


Marcion


The book of mormon is as much doo doo as the bible.


My complaint on this occasion is addressed to the style.  It reflects so badly on the author as to deprive the writings of credibility before the show even starts.





You are aware of the old controversy and allegations that the Book of Mormon started out as a Novel by one of Smith's New York neighbors and  that he dressed it up in pseudo-Biblical style?

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 30, 2012 - 8:25AM #39
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Apr 30, 2012 -- 8:18AM, davelaw40 wrote:


Apr 29, 2012 -- 11:21PM, Blü wrote:


Marcion


The book of mormon is as much doo doo as the bible.


My complaint on this occasion is addressed to the style.  It reflects so badly on the author as to deprive the writings of credibility before the show even starts.





You are aware of the old controversy and allegations that the Book of Mormon started out as a Novel by one of Smith's New York neighbors and  that he dressed it up in pseudo-Biblical style?




You mean he didn't even write it himself? Surprised

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 30, 2012 - 8:28AM #40
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The allegation was that he wrote the heavy handed KJV stuff to disguise that it was someone else's work product.



(The Rev. Solomon Spaulding is the alleged author.)

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