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3 years ago  ::  Apr 23, 2012 - 6:29PM #41
SecondSonOfDavid
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When money is taken from people without their consent, then given to people who did not work for it, and that action is performed by a power not explicitly granted in the Constitution to the government, 'stealing' is an appropriate description.

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 23, 2012 - 7:13PM #42
amcolph
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Apr 23, 2012 -- 6:29PM, SecondSonOfDavid wrote:


When money is taken from people without their consent, then given to people who did not work for it, and that action is performed by a power not explicitly granted in the Constitution to the government, 'stealing' is an appropriate description.




So you are a citizen of this country against your will?

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 23, 2012 - 8:13PM #43
dblad
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Apr 23, 2012 -- 7:13PM, amcolph wrote:


Apr 23, 2012 -- 6:29PM, SecondSonOfDavid wrote:


When money is taken from people without their consent, then given to people who did not work for it, and that action is performed by a power not explicitly granted in the Constitution to the government, 'stealing' is an appropriate description.




So you are a citizen of this country against your will?




Wow! I guess he got you there 2ndSon!!! If you don't like the SSoA, too bad, cause we gonna give all yo money to the drug addicts and 3rd generation unemployed.



 

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 23, 2012 - 8:21PM #44
Blü
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Poor old 57!


If your not a socialist then your a commy


Still got reds under your bed, I see.

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 23, 2012 - 8:33PM #45
Blü
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dblad


If you don't like the SSoA, too bad, cause we gonna give all yo money to the drug addicts and 3rd generation unemployed.


I guess you, as one attentive to Jesus' words, have this in mind, no? -


Luke 14
11 For every one who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."
12 He said also to the man who had invited him, "When you give a dinner or a banquet, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your kinsmen or rich neighbors, lest they also invite you in return, and you be repaid.
13 But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind,
14 and you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you. You will be repaid at the resurrection of the just."


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3 years ago  ::  Apr 23, 2012 - 9:05PM #46
davelaw40
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Apr 23, 2012 -- 7:13PM, amcolph wrote:


Apr 23, 2012 -- 6:29PM, SecondSonOfDavid wrote:


When money is taken from people without their consent, then given to people who did not work for it, and that action is performed by a power not explicitly granted in the Constitution to the government, 'stealing' is an appropriate description.




So you are a citizen of this country against your will?




yes, we would prefer to be citizens of the Republic of Texas

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 23, 2012 - 9:06PM #47
davelaw40
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Apr 23, 2012 -- 6:29PM, SecondSonOfDavid wrote:


When money is taken from people without their consent, then given to people who did not work for it, and that action is performed by a power not explicitly granted in the Constitution to the government, 'stealing' is an appropriate description.




and the form of government is a Kleptocracy

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 23, 2012 - 9:45PM #48
MMarcoe
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Apr 23, 2012 -- 6:29PM, SecondSonOfDavid wrote:


When money is taken from people without their consent, then given to people who did not work for it, and that action is performed by a power not explicitly granted in the Constitution to the government, 'stealing' is an appropriate description.





And that's exactly what happens when taxes are cut on the rich. Most rich don't really "work" for their money; rather, they invest it with the help of advisors who suggest investments for them. So one could say that they are stealing when they enjoy tax breaks.


(And most of this investment doesn't create jobs, by the way.)

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 24, 2012 - 8:10AM #49
amcolph
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Apr 23, 2012 -- 8:13PM, dblad wrote:


Apr 23, 2012 -- 7:13PM, amcolph wrote:


Apr 23, 2012 -- 6:29PM, SecondSonOfDavid wrote:


When money is taken from people without their consent, then given to people who did not work for it, and that action is performed by a power not explicitly granted in the Constitution to the government, 'stealing' is an appropriate description.




So you are a citizen of this country against your will?




Wow! I guess he got you there 2ndSon!!! If you don't like the SSoA, too bad, cause we gonna give all yo money to the drug addicts and 3rd generation unemployed.



 




I suppose you have a point.  the problem with using government money to help the poor is that you take the risk that a handout might accidently be given to an undeserving poor person while an undeserving rich person has to go without.

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 24, 2012 - 9:29AM #50
SecondSonOfDavid
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Apr 23, 2012 -- 7:13PM, amcolph wrote:


Apr 23, 2012 -- 6:29PM, SecondSonOfDavid wrote:


When money is taken from people without their consent, then given to people who did not work for it, and that action is performed by a power not explicitly granted in the Constitution to the government, 'stealing' is an appropriate description.




So you are a citizen of this country against your will?




Interesting take.  As a U.S. citizen, I have every right to dissent and to express my dissent.


At least, that's an American thing.  Where are YOU from, comrade?

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