Mar 22, 2012 -- 6:16PM, mainecaptain wrote:

Christine, I don't want to argue with you, but I doubt people will stop worshipping and believing and behaving as they do.

Rational people will rational and irrational people will continue to be so. Yes some people will change but as a whole. I doubt it.

Mar 22, 2012 -- 5:31PM, christine3 wrote:

Yes, but eventually, reason will win out over superstition.  Eventually, it will become obvious even to religionists, that trading a material idol for an invisible idol is like trading a quarter for a quarter with interest.  It is easy to knock a carved idol off a pedestal and see it crash to the floor, but not so easy to remove an invisible god from the mind.  The priesthoods really pulled a fast one and they know it.  It worked for awhile, but will not work in the long term.

I have to agree with christine.  The Abrahamic religions are destroying their women and children through lack of education and a responsible position in the society.  The women are already controlling conception and fecundity.  The ones that are acquiescent to religious rape are becoming fewer and fewer.  I give it two more generations and there won't be women and children to carry on the religion.  When the old men die off so will God.

Edit: Lost in the God thread. 

No ... Eventually, Experience (as per, "Empiricism") will win out over "Rationalism" ...

Mar 24, 2012 -- 8:00PM, JCarlin wrote:

Mar 22, 2012 -- 6:16PM, mainecaptain wrote:

Christine, I don't want to argue with you, but I doubt people will stop worshipping and believing and behaving as they do.

Rational people will rational and irrational people will continue to be so. Yes some people will change but as a whole. I doubt it.

Mar 22, 2012 -- 5:31PM, christine3 wrote:

Yes, but eventually, reason will win out over superstition.  Eventually, it will become obvious even to religionists, that trading a material idol for an invisible idol is like trading a quarter for a quarter with interest.  It is easy to knock a carved idol off a pedestal and see it crash to the floor, but not so easy to remove an invisible god from the mind.  The priesthoods really pulled a fast one and they know it.  It worked for awhile, but will not work in the long term.

I have to agree with christine.  The Abrahamic religions are destroying their women and children through lack of education and a responsible position in the society.  The women are already controlling conception and fecundity.  The ones that are acquiescent to religious rape are becoming fewer and fewer.  I give it two more generations and there won't be women and children to carry on the religion.  When the old men die off so will God.

Edit: Lost in the God thread. 

I'm sure religion - including the dirtiest, nastiest forms of it - will last my time. I don't care what happens to it after I'm gone.

jonny

I don't think that many people will ever find "We're here by chance" to be very believable.

You're pessimistic that reason will hold out against ignorance and superstition?  Have faith!

Mar 24, 2012 -- 11:39PM, jonny42 wrote:

I don't think that many people will ever find "We're here by chance" to be very believable.  

I don't see why not. "We're here on purpose" doesn't seem very likely, does it?