Mar 9, 2012 -- 2:39PM, Ironhold wrote:

Mar 9, 2012 -- 11:45AM, Habala?! wrote:

Mar 8, 2012 -- 5:48PM, Ironhold wrote:

Mar 8, 2012 -- 5:41PM, Kemmer wrote:

Mar 8, 2012 -- 5:31PM, Ironhold wrote:

Actually, from what studying I've done, it would appear that there was a rather massive degree of regional variation - even congregation-to-congregation variation - concerning how the ban was treated, both during and retroactively.

So, were God and your "prophet" not speaking while all this was going on, or what?

What it means is that the membership weren't as monolithic as the OP would have people believe.

Source? I'd like to see this research.

When explaining the need for a prophet I often hear Mormons quoting 1 Corinthians 14:33. Is You are basically saying that God is indeed the author of confusion. You also ignore the many official church statements on the matter which the membership should all have been aware of. The church's position over the years has been pretty clear and now they're trying to muddy the waters to cover up what was an obviously racist policy.

www.blacklds.org

it's an apologetics site put together by several African-American members of the church.

the church leadership was actually pushing for the ban to be removed as early as the 1950s, but kept receiving revelation that it wasn't quite the time. what's more, blacks the world over were slowly flocking to the church again during the 1960s, something that one would think counter-intuitive given the ban being in place.

That website doesn't change the fact that church leadership has taught that black people are under the curse of Cain and now they're pretending that they didn't. The reasons for the preisthood ban were put in pretty simple terms in past official church statements and it was taught from the pulpit. Try to stay on topic.

What I find awesome about this statement is that they are admitting that the LDS Institution has been teaching and praciticing Dogma and Praxis for over a century without knowing where it came from!

For all they know it was a "doctrine of man" or Billy Bob or Henry or whoever.  They just don't know???

They would rather sweep all the teachings of the Prophets from Brigham on and their witness statements of Joseph's ban-confirming teachings and imply that the whole LDS Institution is a fraud (by implying that it teaches and practices things without knowing it came from God) than just say this is what God has revealed to us, take it or leave.  Do you know why?

It's because Brigham Young and many of the following LDS prophets all said that the ban was permanent until the 2nd coming of Christ, that all worthy non-black males would receive the priesthood before the blacks did.  The lifting of the ban obviously contradicts this.  So instead they say they don't know.

Really?  That's better than the contradiction?