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3 years ago  ::  Mar 05, 2012 - 1:12PM #1
Lady_Heresy
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3 years ago  ::  Mar 05, 2012 - 1:31PM #2
Ken
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Mar 5, 2012 -- 1:12PM, Lady_Heresy wrote:


I am non-theist. Basically I just do not care if there are any gods or not. I think they are more likely more highly evolved aliens that got involved in human gene manipulation and either left us as a failed experiment or left us to "cook" awhile before possibly returning to exploit the results. 



If you think it's likely that "gods" are nothing more than highly evolved aliens, you're an atheist. After all, highly evolved aliens aren't gods. I don't know whether you're a secular humanist or not because I'm not sure what secular humanism is.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 05, 2012 - 2:53PM #3
Bob_the_Lunatic
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Mar 5, 2012 -- 1:31PM, Ken wrote:


Mar 5, 2012 -- 1:12PM, Lady_Heresy wrote:


I am non-theist. Basically I just do not care if there are any gods or not. I think they are more likely more highly evolved aliens that got involved in human gene manipulation and either left us as a failed experiment or left us to "cook" awhile before possibly returning to exploit the results. 



If you think it's likely that "gods" are nothing more than highly evolved aliens, you're an atheist. After all, highly evolved aliens aren't gods. I don't know whether you're a secular humanist or not because I'm not sure what secular humanism is.




I don't know... the "gods are highly evolved aliens" bit makes her sound more Mormon than Secular Humanist to me....

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 05, 2012 - 2:55PM #4
Sparky_Spotty
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I can't stand when people use the word "magick".


Its the pretentious spelling that irritates me.



I think GENERALLY, secular humanists do not believe in supernatural things, but that's only my generalized opinion.



Other than that, I have nothing constructive to add to this discussion.  :p

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 05, 2012 - 3:00PM #5
Ken
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Mar 5, 2012 -- 2:55PM, Sparky_Spotty wrote:


I can't stand when people use the word "magick".


Its the pretentious spelling that irritates me.



Me too. It's an obsolete spelling from the days when people wrote "publick" and "tragick."

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 05, 2012 - 3:32PM #6
F1fan
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Mar 5, 2012 -- 2:53PM, Bob_the_Lunatic wrote:


Mar 5, 2012 -- 1:31PM, Ken wrote:


Mar 5, 2012 -- 1:12PM, Lady_Heresy wrote:


I am non-theist. Basically I just do not care if there are any gods or not. I think they are more likely more highly evolved aliens that got involved in human gene manipulation and either left us as a failed experiment or left us to "cook" awhile before possibly returning to exploit the results. 



If you think it's likely that "gods" are nothing more than highly evolved aliens, you're an atheist. After all, highly evolved aliens aren't gods. I don't know whether you're a secular humanist or not because I'm not sure what secular humanism is.




I don't know... the "gods are highly evolved aliens" bit makes her sound more Mormon than Secular Humanist to me....




Or even the Urantia folks with all that alien talk, although they believe in Jesus and a single god, so are true theists.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 05, 2012 - 3:40PM #7
F1fan
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Mar 5, 2012 -- 2:55PM, Sparky_Spotty wrote:


I can't stand when people use the word "magick".


Its the pretentious spelling that irritates me.



Can we say these folks are sic.


I think GENERALLY, secular humanists do not believe in supernatural things, but that's only my generalized opinion.





I thought secular only refers to there being no religious influence politically in a given society.  And humanism being a philosphy that aims to protecting basic human experience, in that people are fed, shelter provided, well-being promoted, etc.  I've heard some theists refer to secular humanism as being "godless", but that implies it is evil.   It is odd that humanism has probably more respect for humanity than some religious views, such as those of fundamentalists who deny climate change and the need for polution controls.  I don't see how secular humanism necessarily rejects theists from the category, although they will have to be liberal.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 05, 2012 - 3:50PM #8
Sparky_Spotty
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Mar 5, 2012 -- 3:40PM, F1fan wrote:


Can we say these folks are sic.




taBoom Tish!


Hello?  Hello?  Is this thing on?


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3 years ago  ::  Mar 05, 2012 - 5:21PM #9
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3 years ago  ::  Mar 05, 2012 - 5:26PM #10
Ken
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Mar 5, 2012 -- 5:21PM, Lady_Heresy wrote:

in the pagan/neopagan/witchcraft community the spelling "magick" with a "k" is used to distinguish between parlor tricks or birthday party entertainment and the manipulation of the elements of nature to bend to the will of the above persuasion practioner with or without a religious context.


It's quite unnecessary. Everyone understands the distinction from the context. If a distinction really has to be made, referring to the former as "stage magic" is always sufficient. "Magic" by itself denotes the latter.

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