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1 year ago  ::  Mar 04, 2012 - 7:34PM #21
G.flower
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Mar 4, 2012 -- 7:30PM, 57 wrote:




Which is the truth.  The entire human race is guilty. 


Does God hate humanity? I doubt it or else He would not have come and paid the price for our sins. 




No, no no. Only you are guilty. We can take a vote about it if you like.


Oh yes, the three-in-one god came down and died only he didn't actually die because the Christian vegetation god arose in the spring like all the other vegetation gods. 





Vegetation gods??? 


Your mockery breaks down when you realize...vegetation dies and returns to the dust...where Jesus didn't. 




A vegetation god dies and then returns in the spring when the vegetation does. Like Jesus, the demi-god, did. And Bacchus and Ishtar and Adonis, ect.




With Bacchus there was a re-birth...not a resurrection.  Huge diference.




It is a variation on the same thing. Jesus like Baccus = vegetation gods.




Next thing you'll be telling me reincrnation is just a variation of resurrection.




I won't. Reincarnation is a rebirth of the soul in a different body. Resurrection is the soul coming back in the same restored body, or a body that looks the same or a Zombie.

Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones. Marcus Aurelius
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 04, 2012 - 7:36PM #22
Sacrificialgoddess
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57, please tell me you understand the origins of "The King is dead; Long Live the King."

Dark Energy. It can be found in the observable Universe. Found in ratios of 75% more than any other substance. Dark Energy. It can be found in religious extremists, in cheerleaders. To come to the conclusion that Dark signifies mean and malevolent would define 75% of the Universe as an evil force. Alternatively, to think that some cheerleaders don't have razors in their snatch is to be foolishly unarmed.

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 04, 2012 - 7:40PM #23
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Mar 4, 2012 -- 7:36PM, Sacrificialgoddess wrote:


57, please tell me you understand the origins of "The King is dead; Long Live the King."




Judging from the way you posted it here I would have to say....you don't understand it. 

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 04, 2012 - 7:44PM #24
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Mar 4, 2012 -- 7:34PM, G.flower wrote:


Mar 4, 2012 -- 7:30PM, 57 wrote:




Which is the truth.  The entire human race is guilty. 


Does God hate humanity? I doubt it or else He would not have come and paid the price for our sins. 




No, no no. Only you are guilty. We can take a vote about it if you like.


Oh yes, the three-in-one god came down and died only he didn't actually die because the Christian vegetation god arose in the spring like all the other vegetation gods. 





Vegetation gods??? 


Your mockery breaks down when you realize...vegetation dies and returns to the dust...where Jesus didn't. 




A vegetation god dies and then returns in the spring when the vegetation does. Like Jesus, the demi-god, did. And Bacchus and Ishtar and Adonis, ect.




With Bacchus there was a re-birth...not a resurrection.  Huge diference.




It is a variation on the same thing. Jesus like Baccus = vegetation gods.




Next thing you'll be telling me reincrnation is just a variation of resurrection.




I won't. Reincarnation is a rebirth of the soul in a different body. Resurrection is the soul coming back in the same restored body, or a body that looks the same or a Zombie.




There's a bit of a difference between rising from the dead on day 3 and being reborn from being re-created in Zeus thigh. 

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 04, 2012 - 7:49PM #25
G.flower
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Mar 4, 2012 -- 7:44PM, 57 wrote:


Mar 4, 2012 -- 7:34PM, G.flower wrote:


Mar 4, 2012 -- 7:30PM, 57 wrote:




Which is the truth.  The entire human race is guilty. 


Does God hate humanity? I doubt it or else He would not have come and paid the price for our sins. 




No, no no. Only you are guilty. We can take a vote about it if you like.


Oh yes, the three-in-one god came down and died only he didn't actually die because the Christian vegetation god arose in the spring like all the other vegetation gods. 





Vegetation gods??? 


Your mockery breaks down when you realize...vegetation dies and returns to the dust...where Jesus didn't. 




A vegetation god dies and then returns in the spring when the vegetation does. Like Jesus, the demi-god, did. And Bacchus and Ishtar and Adonis, ect.




With Bacchus there was a re-birth...not a resurrection.  Huge diference.




It is a variation on the same thing. Jesus like Baccus = vegetation gods.




Next thing you'll be telling me reincrnation is just a variation of resurrection.




I won't. Reincarnation is a rebirth of the soul in a different body. Resurrection is the soul coming back in the same restored body, or a body that looks the same or a Zombie.




There's a bit of a difference between rising from the dead on day 3 and being reborn from being re-created in Zeus thigh. 




I can't believe you are arguing that your god was reborn better than another god. :-)

Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones. Marcus Aurelius
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 04, 2012 - 7:49PM #26
Sacrificialgoddess
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Mar 4, 2012 -- 7:40PM, 57 wrote:


Mar 4, 2012 -- 7:36PM, Sacrificialgoddess wrote:


57, please tell me you understand the origins of "The King is dead; Long Live the King."




Judging from the way you posted it here I would have to say....you don't understand it. 




So, you are saying you disagree with the notion that it stems from the notion of king as a vegetation God? 


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_king



Please, I would be curious to see your theory. Unless you think this is one of those times that a cigar is just a cigar.

Dark Energy. It can be found in the observable Universe. Found in ratios of 75% more than any other substance. Dark Energy. It can be found in religious extremists, in cheerleaders. To come to the conclusion that Dark signifies mean and malevolent would define 75% of the Universe as an evil force. Alternatively, to think that some cheerleaders don't have razors in their snatch is to be foolishly unarmed.

-- Tori Amos
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 04, 2012 - 7:53PM #27
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Mar 4, 2012 -- 7:49PM, Sacrificialgoddess wrote:


Mar 4, 2012 -- 7:40PM, 57 wrote:


Mar 4, 2012 -- 7:36PM, Sacrificialgoddess wrote:


57, please tell me you understand the origins of "The King is dead; Long Live the King."




Judging from the way you posted it here I would have to say....you don't understand it. 




So, you are saying you disagree with the notion that it stems from the notion of king as a vegetation God? 


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_king



Please, I would be curious to see your theory. Unless you think this is one of those times that a cigar is just a cigar.




 You haven't made any sense yet.  The king is dead long live the king.

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 04, 2012 - 7:56PM #28
Sacrificialgoddess
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Mar 4, 2012 -- 7:53PM, 57 wrote:


Mar 4, 2012 -- 7:49PM, Sacrificialgoddess wrote:


Mar 4, 2012 -- 7:40PM, 57 wrote:


Mar 4, 2012 -- 7:36PM, Sacrificialgoddess wrote:


57, please tell me you understand the origins of "The King is dead; Long Live the King."




Judging from the way you posted it here I would have to say....you don't understand it. 




So, you are saying you disagree with the notion that it stems from the notion of king as a vegetation God? 


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_king



Please, I would be curious to see your theory. Unless you think this is one of those times that a cigar is just a cigar.




 You haven't made any sense yet.  The king is dead long live the king.




Ah, so you ARE ignoring the notion of the sacred king who was to bring fertility to the land and was sacrified when the land went into drought, to bring new life to the soil.

Dark Energy. It can be found in the observable Universe. Found in ratios of 75% more than any other substance. Dark Energy. It can be found in religious extremists, in cheerleaders. To come to the conclusion that Dark signifies mean and malevolent would define 75% of the Universe as an evil force. Alternatively, to think that some cheerleaders don't have razors in their snatch is to be foolishly unarmed.

-- Tori Amos
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 04, 2012 - 10:03PM #29
Paladinsf
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Mar 4, 2012 -- 6:56PM, 57 wrote:


Mar 4, 2012 -- 5:36PM, Paladinsf wrote:


"But unless you repent, you too will all perish."


That attitude is self-hatred, hatred of humanity both collectively and individually, blanket condemnation of an enire species based on the absurd idea that each individual is BORN defective and diseased.





Which is the truth.  The entire human race is guilty. 


Only according to your hateful medieval myth.


Does God hate humanity? I doubt it or else He would not have come and paid the price for our sins.



He's only interested in those who suck up to him and say "Oh, what a worm I am compared to great big wonderful You!" It's repulsive. 


The World is divided into armed camps ready to commit genocide just because we can't agree on whose fairy tales to believe.
The belief in supernatural religion will kill us all if we don't outgrow it.

When I first read "End of Faith" I thought Sam went too far. The more I read and listen to these "believers" the more I wonder if maybe he wasn't right after all.
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 04, 2012 - 11:56PM #30
subtleguy01
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Mar 4, 2012 -- 5:36PM, Paladinsf wrote:


"But unless you repent, you too will all perish."


That attitude is self-hatred, hatred of humanity both collectively and individually, blanket condemnation of an enire species based on the absurd idea that each individual is BORN defective and diseased.


Paladin,


Each of us is born wholly defective and diseased. You're body is gonna physically expire one day. So will mine.


Are you really so arrogant as to presume everyone else should be as angry as you are about it?





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