Feb 29, 2012 -- 1:13PM, dio wrote:

Feb 27, 2012 -- 12:42PM, Bob_the_Lunatic wrote:

Feb 27, 2012 -- 11:21AM, dio wrote:

seems to me this discussion is over. I'm the only one who believes in the possibility of realizing the end of suffering in this world. May your suffering dissipate.

 

No Dio, This statement implies you are not listening again.  I believe in happiness in this world, just not as you define it.  I believe in world peace and individual happiness-that is the point of Buddhist practice.

But I guess if it's not defined the way you say it is, it does not exist.  And if you look close Dio, historically christianity leads to war, not peace-so for me it's obviously not part of the peace puzzle.  Not because I am Buddhist, but because history makes it obvious.

Bob do you have a bias against "Christianity"?

No Dio, I have an awareness of history.  But if you think Buddhism=christianity, I'm sure you have quite a spin on christian history as well.

Feb 29, 2012 -- 6:21PM, dio wrote:

This is not about proselytizing for Christianity. All I say is there is one truth which cannot be defined by words. God Nirvana awakening insight holy spirit now mind emptiness birth death infinity.

 

If it can't be defined by words, why are you using all those words to define it?  Get your story straight Dio.  And there IS one truth, and it sure as hell isn't JESUS.

I mean seriously Dio... of all the thousands of gods man has invented one would think everyone would realize they are all false...  but to go further and pick a bottom of the barrel god like Jesus to believe in??? Wow.

Also Dio, you pretty much just talk about christianity here, I never see any dialogue, so it sure SEEMS like proselytizing to me.   I never see you talk about Buddhism, you just talk about your version of christianity and call it Buddhism.  Just because you know a few Buddhist Buzz Words, and throw them into a sentence about Jesus DOES NOT MEAN they are the same thing.  

Frankly, it's getting old.  If we wanna talk about Jesus here, there are loads of forums for that:  Namely Beliefs Christianity.  Why not take it there?  This whole thread is suspect for example:  It's just a bogus strawman thread title to squeeze Jesus into Beliefs Buddhism-otherwise you'd demonstrate a basis for it-but you didn't, you took the title of a sect, "Pure Land", decided what it meant with ZERO research and then proceeded to pimp your new age version of Jesus-yuck.

Feb 29, 2012 -- 2:56PM, Bob0 wrote:

I have no control over the mass of peoples who proclaim to be Buddhists. I'm sure there are some who proclaim to be followers of Buddha who follow other or made up teachings. I have encountered a few on these very boards. People who thought that stealing was Right Action. But....this in no way indicates that the Buddha wasn't specific in his teachings that dukkha exists, what dukkha is, what it's cause is, and the Eightfold Path for extinguishing dukkha. I have previously provided you with the Buddha's deceleration of this. You either didn't read it, didn't comprehend it or are fabricating your assertions. Not only did The Buddha teach the Four Nobel Truths and The Eightfold Path but he taught his monks to do likewise. www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.1...

AKA: "Buddha was not explicit in who, how, what, when, where, why it comes to comes to extinguishing dukkha"

Not only would a Buddhist say that is an ignorant statement but any fair minded analysis would come to the same conclusion. I'm not sure why you make the comments you do but I do know that your posts are in error.

Bob

The 4 Noble Truths and The Eightfold Path are quite clear in establishing what dukha is and how it can be remedied. The Baha'i' capacity for ignorance and dishonesty never ceases to amaze me. It is evidence that their religion is based on dishonesty. As it was founded by a career jailbird with mental illness issues, I shouldn't be surprised.

Mar 1, 2012 -- 10:59AM, Bob_the_Lunatic wrote:

Mar 1, 2012 -- 9:54AM, dio wrote:

Bob, I think your concepts are blocking you from deeper understanding. Here is a Buddhist thought I picked up on, there is no this and there is no that, talking about oneness. The Christianity you think exist doesn't exist, the Buddhism you think exists doesn't exist. What I think is not making you angry,  what you think is what is making you angry.

Here's what I'm exploring, is the God that exists in my mind and heart withinin Buddha?  My bias is yes, what I know as God exists as Buddha mind and heart.

You may know the scriptures and your sect's practices better than I but sorry to say I think I know Buddha and I like it.

Would you say you are enlightened?

I gotta point out Dio, I don't lay claim to the things I say, they are not "my concepts".  That is you projecting:   You are the one with personal concepts you claim are deeper than those of christianity or Buddhism.  It's your right to think that, and it proves my points for me. 

My last post stands (you only mention Buddhism to get around ROC-all you really talk about is christianity), and until you show some respect to this forum-by discussing BUDDHISM (you know, the name of the forum) instead of christianity, I'll not discuss Buddhism with you.  At that point, where you prove yourself capable of deeper learning and the ability to listen to and learn from others, I'm sure we could have a fruitful discussion.  

Dio-"You may know the scriptures and your sect's practices better than I but sorry to say I think I know Buddha and I like it."

Dio, you haven't demonstrated any actual understanding of Buddhism in any thread on this forum. Sorry to burst your bubble. When Buddhists try to tell you about Buddhism, please pay attention. We actually know what we are talking about, unlike those of you who come in here and imply that Buddhism is a subset of post Abrahamic religions like Christianity and that heterodox Muslim crap called Baha'i'.