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4 months ago ::
Feb 09, 2012 - 11:12AM
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If God, the prophets, or Jesus never told anyone , salvation accomplished only through the blood of god, his son, or anyone else.
Where this idea came from to Paul's head?
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4 months ago ::
Feb 09, 2012 - 11:23AM
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It has to do with (in part, but not wholly) Moses and the blood of the covenant.
Ubi solitudinem faciunt pacem appellant - Tacitus
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4 months ago ::
Feb 09, 2012 - 12:49PM
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It has to do with (in part, but not wholly) Moses and the blood of the covenant.
>>>Where? scripture please.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 09, 2012 - 12:51PM
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Moses sprinkled the blood from sacrificed animals on the Hebrews saying, "Behold the blood of the covenant that the Lord has made with you concerning all these words" (Ex. 24:5-8). Going from this scene to Golgotha equires a great jump in one's imagination.
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4 months ago ::
Feb 09, 2012 - 12:54PM
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It has to do with (in part, but not wholly) Moses and the blood of the covenant.
>>>Where? scripture please.
I am off to lunch, but I trust you can use google. It is in Exodus. If you find something, and I trust that you will, I would like to tell you ahead of time that I am not willing to respond to something along the lines of 'Oh!, well that's not what Paul is saying!' I will leave that to any christians that would like to do so. Moreover, I would guess that people that are of the mind to do so could possibly know more off the top of their head than I do. Take care, TFV
Ubi solitudinem faciunt pacem appellant - Tacitus
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4 months ago ::
Feb 09, 2012 - 12:56PM
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JimRigas, Thanks, yes, that's the passage. As for changes in religion over time, it take a lot of something to go from 1st Temple to 2nd Temple to Rabbinic, to... at least in my opinion it does as religion is dynamic.
Ubi solitudinem faciunt pacem appellant - Tacitus
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4 months ago ::
Feb 09, 2012 - 12:57PM
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Just to save me some time, is this another Monster Paul threads?
Victim of this, victim of that, your mama’s too thin and your daddy’s too fat, get over it! - the Eagles
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4 months ago ::
Feb 09, 2012 - 12:59PM
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this is a was Paul making up stuff? thread
Non Quis, Sed Quid
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4 months ago ::
Feb 09, 2012 - 1:40PM
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Moses sprinkled the blood from sacrificed animals on the Hebrews saying, "Behold the blood of the covenant that the Lord has made with you concerning all these words" (Ex. 24:5-8). Going from this scene to Golgotha equires a great jump in one's imagination.
>>>God deny such things: (Jer 7:22)For when I freed your fathers from the land of Egypt, I did not speak with them or command them concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices. But this is what I commanded them. Blood never was the way to forgive sins. If it's as you think, then please show me what kind of animal they need for (the crime of killing) for example?
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4 months ago ::
Feb 09, 2012 - 2:27PM
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Just to save me some time, is this another Monster Paul threads?
It would appear that that is the case, but I guess it is also questioning the exact nature of atonement practices via a selective, ahistorical, and tendentious reading of scipture. So, jlb, you got that AND Paul going. Have at it.
Ubi solitudinem faciunt pacem appellant - Tacitus
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