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they do not understand the word WORLD.
4 months ago  ::  Feb 08, 2012 - 5:49PM #1
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So many folks have been at the mercy of the false  religious teachers, that they think they are going to heaven. No , they will not unless Jehovah chooses them to be a part  of the  new administation, that will  rule with Jesus.
When in heaven , no one can bribe them, or threaten them. But it can still rule the nations with Christ for a thousand years  during  which the resurrection will occur.  There are 2 resurrecions, 1st those  who are chosen to live with Jesus in heaven, and second those who will live on earth.
But do you understand how the bible uses the word WORLD?? A world passed away at the time of Noah. But the planet is still here. So what did the word world mean?  Bad people were  ruining the earth, so Noah was told to put animals and supplies and family in the Ark...not shaped like a boat  but 3 stories high, and about  as big as  a very big sports stadium in leangth. It did not have a pointed bow, for it was only to float. Those directions saved Noah and his family.
The newer ark is now , Jehovahs kingdom, the place of safety during the destruction of  Satans  nations.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 08, 2012 - 6:00PM #2
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The bible says at Eph. 1; at the full limit of the appointed times , the God of heaven will set up his administration.


So what administration are you loyal to? Gods administration is Jehovahs kingdom. The nations  hate it, and so do the religons that favor the nations. Satan was allowed to rule for the appointed times. But the interference in his rulership came in 1914, when an education system began distributing  bibles all over the world. And they became known as Jehovahs witnesses. Bibles in many languages were printed at cost, so the general public could read it for themselves.  Governments  do have schools... JW's do also. The KH are an education system, so are the magazines and books.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 08, 2012 - 6:18PM #3
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It says this generation will not pass away until all these things occur. They have occuurd and my brothers born in 1911 did pass away, but my sister who was born in1913 is still alvie. Some people now live to be 110 and rumors are that one group  living in another land  are still alive at 130. So did you read all the things that were to occur in the time of the end? It doesn't say that all the nations will fall, in that description of the end times. It does say the Good news of the kingdom( Jehovahs Kingdom) will be preached in all the inhabited earth, and then( doesnt say how long after ) the end will come.  Well JWS do teach about the kingdom in all the inhabited earth. Some places in secret due to dangers. But it is still growing and growing very fast. " The little one itself will become a thousand..Isa 60 ; 12

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 08, 2012 - 6:27PM #4
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Gods administration is Jehovahs kingdom. The nations  hate it



Unfortunately, quite the contrary; most of those Republican clowns have been pandering exclusively to the fundamentalists.


 


and so do the religons that favor the nations. Satan was allowed to rule for the appointed times. But the interference in his rulership came in 1914, when an education system began distributing  bibles all over the world. And they became known as Jehovahs witnesses.



Does your sect tell you that nobody in foreign countries had bibles of their own till the JWs came along?


  Governments  do have schools... JW's do also. The KH are an education system...



What the JWs have are "madrassahs".

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 08, 2012 - 6:35PM #5
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In the early 1900  few people had bibles, they were exensive. Now they were published and sold at the cost of the paper and Ink, thousands in many many languages.  I remember our Uncle Tom saying the pope now allows us to read the bible. He had just bitten into an apple and said , what is worse than finding a worm in your apple? Finding half a worm. And Dad said what is worse  than thinking one has  the right religion? only knowing half of it.  Uncle Tom was Catolic. A very good man, and when his children passed the church they would do the sign of the cross.And if they said a bad word they said darn it, now I have to go to confession.  They feared  Their god, and  feared a burning hellfire if they disobeyed. Thus from fear they were good kids.  But the nation, the uSA owned them. They did not know that  there was no burning helfire. They did not know that the city dump of Jerusalem was called the Everlasting fire because it was kept butrning all the time, and criminals were put in the city dump instead of a memorial tomb.


Did the theif get put in the Everlasting fire? Likely. Doesnt matter. There is a resurrection coming for the righteous and the unrightous too. And their past sins have been paid for by their death.  So by what they do after being resurrected is  how they will be judged, by Christ.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 08, 2012 - 6:48PM #6
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Kenner, yes people had bibles  but it was difficult to afford them unless one had a good paying job. In many countries even today people live  on the land,, that is  they grow small animals , fish, and their own gardens, and do not have a paying job.  The millions of bibles published in many languages made it possible to read it for themselves. The 1st ones were of the kJV , printed just  as the earlier plates  that our society bought . Later some changes were made  and newer plates correcting some of the poorer translation mistakes.  The society also bought the magazine  so  it became just JWs publishing it. Before that it was a magazine but not just by JWs/

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 08, 2012 - 7:15PM #7
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JW"s passed out tracts exposing the false hellfire doctrine  that made people scared to leave their churches. Now they could learn what the bible says and know they were being taught only half truth. Like the half worm they knew something was not right , for nations that said they were Christians were killing each other. .So now my Dan began explaing the bible to Uncle Tom.


In many churches people left, no longer paying  pew dues, and offerings for masses, to keep folks out of the imaginary purgatory that is not even mentioned in the bible.That made the clergy Mad Mad Mad. So they attacked us by saying the book we published was treasonous.. just wht Constantine also did with the codex  forms of the bibles, and he executed them if they owned one or taught from one. So the authorities arrested 8 of our leaders  They were given life in prison for publishing a book that explained some of the bible. They were innocent .

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 09, 2012 - 10:18AM #8
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You know, Koine Greek in the New Testament, in truth, uses two words for "world"--i.e. kosmos and oikomene.  I wonder which one the OP means?

A conservative is someone who believes that firefighters, teachers, and police officers are overpaid. 

"Wesley told the early Methodists to gain all they could and save all they could so that they could give all they could. It means that I consider my money to belong to God and I see myself as one of the hungry people who needs to get fed with God’s money. If I really have put all my trust in Jesus Christ as savior and Lord, then nothing I have is really my own anymore." 

Republicans experience suffering the way they experience all their virtues, i.e. vicariously. 

According to "just war" standards of Christian theology, if Saddam Hussein killed 30,000 Iraqis, and the Iraq War killed 120,00, how was the War "just"?
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 09, 2012 - 1:09PM #9
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 The millions of bibles published in many languages made it possible to read it for themselves. The 1st ones were of the kJV , printed just  as the earlier plates  that our society bought . Later some changes were made  and newer plates correcting some of the poorer translation mistakes.



Yes, the WTS changed passages of the bible to bring it more in step with the JW line. 

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 09, 2012 - 6:05PM #10
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Feb 8, 2012 -- 6:35PM, older wrote:


In the early 1900  few people had bibles, they were exensive. 


Total rubbish, Older.  In our own small home, we have MANY family bibles, from many branches of the family, and most of those branches were very poor farming families.  We have them in several languages, from immigrant ancestors.  Your information here is totally wrong.  The Bibles certainly were relatively expensive, but they were considered important enough to save for.


The rest of your post is equally incorrect.  Whatever your Uncle Tom thought his own local church was teaching him was NOT true for most Catholics.  What church do you think most of those pre-1900, Bible-owning ancestors of ours belonged to?


"Charity is no substitute for justice withheld."  ~ St. Augustine

"Never place a period where God has placed a comma."  ~ Gracie Allen

"I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it." ~ Abraham Lincoln
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