There are many instances in scriptures where God does not follow the golden rule.
Ezekiel 18:20
The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
In the sacrifice of Jesus, God demanded that Jesus bear the sins of the wicked who will repent.
This is hardly doing unto others or following the advice of scriptures.
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Matthew 25:41 (Jesus speaking): Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
Romans 12:21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
Hell can hardly be called a good thing. This again is hardly Jesus doing unto others or following the advice of scriptures.
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Does the God you know follow the golden rule?
How can he be doing so when a good God would find a good and moral way to convert instead the draconian methods he seems to use that go against the golden rule and his own good advice in his scriptures?
There are many instances in scriptures where God does not follow the golden rule.
Ezekiel 18:20
The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
In the sacrifice of Jesus, God demanded that Jesus bear the sins of the wicked who will repent.
This is hardly doing unto others or following the advice of scriptures.
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Matthew 25:41 (Jesus speaking): Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
Romans 12:21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
Hell can hardly be called a good thing. This again is hardly Jesus doing unto others or following the advice of scriptures.
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Does the God you know follow the golden rule?
How can he be doing so when a good God would find a good and moral way to convert instead the draconian methods he seems to use that go against the golden rule and his own good advice in his scriptures?
Regards
DL
God is good all the time. Any scripture saying otherwise is not correct, not divine truth--not from God.
Scriptural apologists are specialists in devising explanations for why it is that God is holy no matter how despicably he is reported to act, whereas people are sinners no matter how nobly they try to act, and therefore people may not judge God.
lope is correct--scriptural passages that depict God commiting crimes that would be condemned universally if done by a human monarch are false, at least at face value (literal interpretation).
I prayed for deliverance from the hard world of facts and logic to the happy land where fantasies and prejudices reign. But God spake unto me, saying, "No, keep telling the truth," and to that end afflicted me with severe Trenchant Mouth. So I'm sorry for making cutting remarks, but it's the will of God.
Scriptural apologists are specialists in devising explanations for why it is that God is holy no matter how despicably he is reported to act, whereas people are sinners no matter how nobly they try to act, and therefore people may not judge God.
lope is correct--scriptural passages that depict God commiting crimes that would be condemned universally if done by a human monarch are false, at least at face value (literal interpretation).
I am told quite often not to judge God.
It is always from those who have judged God good.
If I agree, that is fine, but if I do not and find something evil, then I cannot judge even while they do.
lope should study Buddhism or another relegion that is not revealed. Perhaps then his bible would have more than 4 pages.
I think our friend lope is perfectly able to decide which faith works, and maybe we can all agree that the religious label we wear, if any, matters very little. In any decent faith, we are known by our fruits.
I prayed for deliverance from the hard world of facts and logic to the happy land where fantasies and prejudices reign. But God spake unto me, saying, "No, keep telling the truth," and to that end afflicted me with severe Trenchant Mouth. So I'm sorry for making cutting remarks, but it's the will of God.
Scriptural apologists are specialists in devising explanations for why it is that God is holy no matter how despicably he is reported to act, whereas people are sinners no matter how nobly they try to act, and therefore people may not judge God.
Now this is something else that bothers me..... I've read in the bible where concerning creation, god did his little creating thingy, and when he finished he looked about at his craftsmanship and called it good. Now, I'm supposing here that he was talking about all of his created creatures... which would by default, include along with the earth and all that resides here, but also all of the created beings in heaven as well. And again by default, this would have to include ole slew foot, the devil too.
We have all seen the way that Satan has morphed from an agent of this god as the human's accuser, or prosecuting attorney, to being something that can invade the body, take it over and cause whatever body it inhabits to do the most evil acts against this god. IOW, we have seen humans recreate a created being. And it's biblical too... Just jump forward from Old Testament to the New. But whatever you do, don't call out for the genocide, or self righteous anger this god possesses. And you better not risk his ire by telling folks they were at one time "good", which by definition rules out being worthless hunks of clay formed into a person.
lope is correct--scriptural passages that depict God commiting crimes that would be condemned universally if done by a human monarch are false, at least at face value (literal interpretation).
Lope is always right! He is never, ever, ever wrong. He is the sole living human who has the most complete understanding of scripture... puts all of the past biblical scholars to shame with his insight to the authenticity of the bible. And by admitting he is right, you are allowing him to stand those as corrected who say that the bible is rife with contradictions, and inaccuracies. That the bible is NOT the inerrant word of the one and only, true, living god.
But just by allowing this, is it not also possible that now he will also have to admit that there is this distinct possibility that this wonderful good god he worships is not in reality a narcissistic, self serving god who can change on a whim, and destroy what he himself claimed to be good because he is disappointed with his less than perfect creation?
Lope said it himself. A truth can not be a lie, and a lie can not be a truth. And by saying what he did in his post, he has opened a flood gate to possibilities as to the true nature of his god.
It isn't about waiting for the storms to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain.
I ANSWERED THE QUESTION. I THINK THE BIBLE IS WRONG WHEN IT DEPICTS GOD AS EVIL .
I THINK YOU ARE WRONG TO ASSUME A CHRISTIAN MUST BELIEVE THE BIBLE IS WITHOUT ERROR.
And at the same time set yourself up for error in your perspective of your god, Lope.
I don't think that's fair. I wouldn't put words into the mouth of another poster, but I would guess they are saying something to akin to 'Only God is God, the Bible is not God'. That is, if you take the idea that the Bible is loosely a depiction of various people's thoughts about their god and that people are flawed (I would guess that everyone can agree that people are flawed) then it would follow that the writings in the bible are a cross-section of the human experience.
If that's not correct, then I apologize. Additionally, what I have offered isn't a view that I hold, but I would say that it is not without its problems while at the same time, not without its merits.
