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3 years ago  ::  Dec 03, 2011 - 3:54PM #1
Kwinters
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How do you work on this truth?
Jesus had two dads, and he turned out alright.~ Andy Gussert

“Feminism has fought no wars. It has killed no opponents. It has set up no concentration camps, starved no enemies, practiced no cruelties. Its battles have been for education, for the vote, for better working conditions…for safety on the streets…for child care, for social welfare…for rape crisis centers, women’s refuges, reforms in the law.

If someone says, “Oh, I’m not a feminist,” I ask, “Why, what’s your problem?”

Dale Spender
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3 years ago  ::  Dec 03, 2011 - 5:23PM #2
Aka_me
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Dec 3, 2011 -- 3:54PM, Kwinters wrote:

How do you work on this truth?



excellent question, looking forward to reading some answers.


personally I'm still working on the first step.

our leaders lie to us to create war killing countless for corp interests in 1898, 1964, and 2003. thinking this makes us better than IRAN is abso-flippin-lutely ridiculous!

it's called operation mockingbird and given what the media did to Gary Webb, it appears to still be running. unfortunate for Gary the cia knew drugs to poor black communities wouldn't bother americans. had drugs been sold in rich white neighborhoods americans would have suddenly cared enough to punish those responsible.
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3 years ago  ::  Dec 04, 2011 - 12:25AM #3
Bob0
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One day at a time. Meditation. Allowing the wisdom of the teachings to enter. Observing change. Knowing that what we don't know is infinite. Somehow the passing of years seems to help.
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3 years ago  ::  Dec 04, 2011 - 4:50AM #4
Kwinters
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As some of you may know, in the last 14 months I have experienced the truth of impermance deeply and directly.  It has been a struggle, to say the least, but I feel I am finally reaching a state of acceptance with all the changes that happened.  I had found a few talks on the third noble truth that speak very directly to the challenges I have faced when grief, depression, fear and anger arise.  I have been practicing noticing them, observing them with mindfulness, becoming aware of their opponent forces and allowing them to pass away.  Whatever arises, ceases.


Others may find this interesting/helpful:


dharmaseed.org/talks/audio_player/79/246...

Jesus had two dads, and he turned out alright.~ Andy Gussert

“Feminism has fought no wars. It has killed no opponents. It has set up no concentration camps, starved no enemies, practiced no cruelties. Its battles have been for education, for the vote, for better working conditions…for safety on the streets…for child care, for social welfare…for rape crisis centers, women’s refuges, reforms in the law.

If someone says, “Oh, I’m not a feminist,” I ask, “Why, what’s your problem?”

Dale Spender
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3 years ago  ::  Dec 04, 2011 - 8:02AM #5
dio
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what is the third noble truth again?

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3 years ago  ::  Dec 04, 2011 - 11:16AM #6
RenGalskap
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Dec 4, 2011 -- 8:02AM, dio wrote:

what is the third noble truth again?


Liberation from duhkha.

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3 years ago  ::  Dec 04, 2011 - 3:04PM #7
Bob0
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3 years ago  ::  Dec 05, 2011 - 10:16AM #8
dio
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wow reading all that information was starting to make my head spin. Reading about the end of suffering was actually causing me to sufferLaughing.

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3 years ago  ::  Dec 05, 2011 - 3:16PM #9
Bob0
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Possibly some day you will be ready.

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3 years ago  ::  Dec 05, 2011 - 4:47PM #10
SeraphimR
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Dec 5, 2011 -- 3:16PM, Bob0 wrote:


Possibly some day you will be ready.




I am not sure why anyone would want to do this.

Whenever anything terrible happens, or rather is done, in the world, “we” are somehow to blame for it, not the merely apparent perpetrators. The root cause is always in us, the us in question being our biological, cultural, or political ancestors, but never me in particular. We are responsible, but I am not. We have done something to make them behave badly, and if it were not for us the world would be a peaceful, happy place. And to be ultimately responsible for all the evil in the world is at least flattering to one’s sense of self-importance, the defense of which motivates an important part of many people’s intellectual activity.

Theodore Dalrymple
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