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3 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2011 - 9:32PM #1
Bezant
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...to wish harm on an enemy--provided you don't act on it?



It's human, but is it right, or wrong?

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2011 - 9:37PM #2
Ken
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Nov 9, 2011 -- 9:32PM, Bezant wrote:


...to wish harm on an enemy--provided you don't act on it?



It's human, but is it right?



Yes. And sometimes it's right to act on it.

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2011 - 10:12PM #3
mountain_man
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Why waste time, energy, and emotions, on something so useless? I have better things to do with my time.

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I am a Humanist. I believe in a rational philosophy of life, informed by science, inspired by art, and motivated by a desire to do good for its own sake and not by an expectation of a reward or fear of punishment in an afterlife.
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2011 - 11:02PM #4
Bezant
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If the question's a waste of your time don't answer it.


Thoughtful responses are of course welcome.

Moderated by Stardove on Nov 10, 2011 - 12:03AM
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 1:01AM #5
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Nov 9, 2011 -- 11:02PM, Bezant wrote:

If the question's a waste of your time don't answer it..


I see your biases have gotten in the way again. The waste of time is in wishing ill on your enemies. I have better things to do than wish ill on my enemies.... if I had any. If someone sees me as an enemy, or considers themselves to be my enemy; that's their problem, not mine. I go about my business on my own terms, I could not care less what they do.


Now, try reading what I say, not what you want to read into it.

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 10:36AM #6
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First you must define, who is the enemy? What makes someone an enemy?
Then other questions could be answered.
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 10:37AM #7
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Nov 9, 2011 -- 9:32PM, Bezant wrote:


...to wish harm on an enemy--provided you don't act on it?



So I take it you aren't referring to a soldier in combat with the enemy, yes?  Who are you saying is an enemy?



It's human, but is it right, or wrong?




Depends.  In business your competition may be seen as an enemy.  If you have more resources than your competition you can set a strategy that puts them out of business, doing massive harm to that family.  Personally I don't see that as ethical.

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 11:00AM #8
Bezant
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Nov 10, 2011 -- 1:01AM, mountain_man wrote:


Nov 9, 2011 -- 11:02PM, Bezant wrote:

If the question's a waste of your time don't answer it..


I see your biases have gotten in the way again. The waste of time is in wishing ill on your enemies. I have better things to do than wish ill on my enemies.... if I had any. If someone sees me as an enemy, or considers themselves to be my enemy; that's their problem, not mine. I go about my business on my own terms, I could not care less what they do.


Now, try reading what I say, not what you want to read into it.




You're right. I apologise.

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 11:29AM #9
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Nov 10, 2011 -- 11:00AM, Bezant wrote:

You're right. I apologise.


That's OK, this is an awkward medium - and I could have been more specific.


For 10 years I taught REBT to people ridding themselves of a chemical addiction. Part of REBT is taking responsibility for your own emotions. Wishing an ill on someone would be allowing that person, or their actions, to cause my emotions. It's not healthy to let others take control of your emotions.

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 12:30PM #10
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Nov 10, 2011 -- 11:29AM, mountain_man wrote:


Nov 10, 2011 -- 11:00AM, Bezant wrote:

You're right. I apologise.


That's OK, this is an awkward medium - and I could have been more specific.


For 10 years I taught REBT to people ridding themselves of a chemical addiction. Part of REBT is taking responsibility for your own emotions. Wishing an ill on someone would be allowing that person, or their actions, to cause my emotions. It's not healthy to let others take control of your emotions.




Excellent, I agree MM

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