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| 2 years ago :: Aug 29, 2011 - 1:14PM #1 | |
dio
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Hi pagans, AQuestion for pagans, I have is do pagans believe they can get gods to do what they want by worship and offerings?
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| 2 years ago :: Aug 29, 2011 - 2:41PM #2 | |
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Loaded question. There are hundreds if not thousands of different Pagan religions. Most with nothing in common except that they are not Abrahamic in nature or foundation.
My religion does NOT believe such things. The gods are not puppets to be manipulated by giving them trinkets.
Peace.
A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon devotion to religion. Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal treatment from a ruler whom they consider god-fearing and pious. On the other hand, they do less easily move against him, believing that he has the gods on his side. Aristotle
Never discourage anyone...who continually makes progress, no matter how slow. Plato.. "A life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives" Jackie Robinson |
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| 2 years ago :: Aug 29, 2011 - 4:00PM #3 | |
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Goddess, this makes my head hurt.
Do you believe you can get your god to do what you want with worship and offerings? You answer the question, and you'll get an honest answer from me. Until then, I am going to assume you are trolling, because this? This is a trolling question.
Dark Energy. It can be found in the observable Universe. Found in ratios of 75% more than any other substance. Dark Energy. It can be found in religious extremists, in cheerleaders. To come to the conclusion that Dark signifies mean and malevolent would define 75% of the Universe as an evil force. Alternatively, to think that some cheerleaders don't have razors in their snatch is to be foolishly unarmed.
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| 2 years ago :: Aug 29, 2011 - 5:35PM #4 | |
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Why do you make offerings and do you sincerely worship goddesses? I'm gonna go ask the same question on thew Christian board, I know Christians ask Jesus for things and worship him. Just wondering if people think they can controle gods with prayer and worship. |
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| 2 years ago :: Aug 29, 2011 - 8:02PM #5 | |
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I can not speak for all Pagans. But myself and those I know fairly well have relationships with their deities. Having an intimate relationship is not playing games like I'll give you a fifth of scotch if you do this or that. We communicate, rather then pray. As I said the gods are not puppets to be manipulated. Christianity always baffles me in this area, actually in any area.
A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon devotion to religion. Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal treatment from a ruler whom they consider god-fearing and pious. On the other hand, they do less easily move against him, believing that he has the gods on his side. Aristotle
Never discourage anyone...who continually makes progress, no matter how slow. Plato.. "A life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives" Jackie Robinson |
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| 2 years ago :: Aug 29, 2011 - 10:10PM #6 | |
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Do you make offerings? William Blake and John Milton were both Christians. I fond it curious that you would use Christian authors as a source on pagan notions. Might I suggest Pagan authors instead? You will find Paganism is a lot like Christianity, in that there are fifty thousand flavors, all holding their own opinions on various subjects. As for me, and several other Pagans on this board, we do not ask our gods for anything. We do not bow, scrape or grovel, anymore than we would our spouses. We simply...adore our gods, I suppose would be the word. As I said elsewhere on the boards, our gods expect us to stand on our own two feet, fight for what is right, and learn from the mistakes of others, if we find ourselves unable to learn from our own. Of course, YMMV.
Dark Energy. It can be found in the observable Universe. Found in ratios of 75% more than any other substance. Dark Energy. It can be found in religious extremists, in cheerleaders. To come to the conclusion that Dark signifies mean and malevolent would define 75% of the Universe as an evil force. Alternatively, to think that some cheerleaders don't have razors in their snatch is to be foolishly unarmed.
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| 2 years ago :: Aug 29, 2011 - 10:52PM #7 | |
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With all due respect, what does that mean?
A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon devotion to religion. Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal treatment from a ruler whom they consider god-fearing and pious. On the other hand, they do less easily move against him, believing that he has the gods on his side. Aristotle
Never discourage anyone...who continually makes progress, no matter how slow. Plato.. "A life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives" Jackie Robinson |
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| 2 years ago :: Aug 30, 2011 - 7:06AM #8 | |
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I think he wonders if we are making it up. You know, lip-service or something.
Dark Energy. It can be found in the observable Universe. Found in ratios of 75% more than any other substance. Dark Energy. It can be found in religious extremists, in cheerleaders. To come to the conclusion that Dark signifies mean and malevolent would define 75% of the Universe as an evil force. Alternatively, to think that some cheerleaders don't have razors in their snatch is to be foolishly unarmed.
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| 2 years ago :: Aug 30, 2011 - 1:09PM #9 | |
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A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon devotion to religion. Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal treatment from a ruler whom they consider god-fearing and pious. On the other hand, they do less easily move against him, believing that he has the gods on his side. Aristotle
Never discourage anyone...who continually makes progress, no matter how slow. Plato.. "A life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives" Jackie Robinson |
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| 2 years ago :: Aug 30, 2011 - 2:17PM #10 | |
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Yes I'm not trying to offend but did wonder if you were sincere or just playing. Thanks for your sincere responces. I am moving toward Buddhism which means leaving behind all my old concepts except one; the human body is the flesh and blood of divinity. Blake wrote, " God became as we are, that we may become as h/she is". That's what I think about God these days. God is to be found and encountered in humanity. Can yu dig it? How about you are pagan godesses other or are they you?
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