Ok so the topic has been brought up. Sense I had my first kinky experience, lost my kinky sexual innocense, I have discovered my submissive side. Yep!The guy I was with who was my Master it was only a week and he was a creep ended up beign a drug addict, if you read my other thread written 4 days ago the stories up there. However sense I broke up with him Ive been examining my submissive side.

I was going to go back to Craigslist, and I did but the zillion and one guys who wrote me( and I do mean like a zillion My God Craigslist, when I put an ad about BDSM its like every freaking weirdo around the freaking world read it good grief Ive never seen so many responses to an ad in all of my life) it seemed like if I tried to get to know any of them they were all too anxious to get to know me too too fast. So i dropped all of them. Im in a web community now instead, Ive got a guy friend who lives in a different state who wants to be friends and possibly develop a BDSM relationship with me but strictly only through the phone and email. These days, there are those in the lifestyle who choose more of a mental and spiritual BDSM lifestyle but dont have to be involved sexually. I wanted to get a partner right away in person right at first,I loved it its the biggest shock of my life that I have this side to me, and I want to cultivate it but got to admit Im pretty afraid right now of serial killers and con men. I just now got through with almost being stung by one.

Anyways the topic BDSM and UU, even though I only am practicing it through the phone and email, still the question exists do you as a UU accept it, are you offended? I went ahead and threw it on the table at my church with our directer. She simply stated some folks at UU maybe offended by it some wont be but UU as a whole, the UU church itself wont have a problem with it.She said though there might be some I shouldnt have enough problems at UU to be uncomfortable with my membership there.

Perrsonally i dont even plan on talking about it there theres no reason to start trouble.

But the question is for anyone here at Beliefnet, if your a Universalist do you have an issue with BDSMs? The Dom Submissive relationship???????????

For me personally its an awesome deal, I love talking to a Master on the phone, it gives me discipline and I feel like right now that Im discovering a side to me that is a secret key to me,like a true part of me my heart. My guyfriend Ive only been talking to him a couple of days on the net and I feel like he can see straight through to my heart. It makes me feel more whole, Im at more peace with myself, its an awesome feeling!

Dominance and submission (also called D&s, Ds, and D/s) is a set of behaviors, customs and rituals involving the giving by one individual to another individual of dominance over them in an erotic episode or as a lifestyle.

Physical contact is not a necessity, and it can even be conducted anonymously over the telephone, email or other messaging system. In other cases, it can be intensely physical, sometimes traversing into sadomasochism. In D/s, both parties take pleasure or erotic enjoyment from either dominating or being dominated. Those who take the superior position are called dominants, doms (male) or dommes (female), while those who take the subordinate position are called submissives or subs (male or female). A switch is an individual who plays in either role. Two switches together may negotiate and exchange roles several times in a session. "Dominatrix" is a term usually reserved for a female professional dominant who dominates others for pay.

No experience in it but my guess is that UUs would Not support any activitythat is based on humiliation, disrespect, pain or domination.   That is probably why our pagan members frown on human sacrifice.  Of course, what happens behind closed doors ... Sombody is supporting that industry and would expect UUs in proportion.

Well I havnt reread my thread  and I may have given you the misundertanding of BDSM that it has something to do with pain and himilation and degradation.

But it doesnt, and Ive learned alot sense then and frankly I think we need to have a talk and confrontation session about involving your Universalist beliefs in sex at all.

FYI there is a  dominant and submissve person in every relation its got nothing to do with pain or humiliation. The dominant person is the person who makes the decisions .

 A Dom sub relationship can mean that its emotional instead of physical pain isnt required in a dom sub relationship at all. It can just mean this it can mean that the dom person in sex makes all the decisions for the other person and has their way with them in sex.

It can also include blindfolding someone in sex so the one person has to trust the other absolutly, but doesnt involve pain just trust.

It can involve lots of stuff, Ive reconsidered bondage as well, and know I dont think being tied up is painful or degrading some people consider it very sexual and sensual.

I think your being judegmental and stereotyping and ovegenaralizing it BDSM means different things to different people. For me Id ike some day bto fnd someone I can roleplay with I dont see anything painful or degrading about that.

Im embarrassed we have so many closed minded attitudes in the UU church . im putting up another thread about sex here so.