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1 year ago  ::  May 08, 2012 - 10:47AM #31
mytmouse57
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May 7, 2012 -- 2:58PM, Lilwabbit wrote:


I must admit I don't like Sacha that much either and for the very same reasons. But my point was that he qualifies as a Jewish comedian. :)


Zohan seems a trifle crude too. Tongue Out




I like crude humor.


It caters to my inner 14-year-old. 

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1 year ago  ::  May 08, 2012 - 2:52PM #32
world citizen
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Attempting to get this thread back on track, I'll offer that the Seal of the Prophets probably didn't condone crude humour (Jewish or otherwise)...


Sometimes moderating can result in  Cry , Undecided , or just plain Yell !!


Help me here fellas...  Wink


Ye have been forbidden in the Book of God to engage in contention and conflict...
~Baha'u'llah, The Kitab-i-Aqdas
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1 year ago  ::  May 08, 2012 - 3:29PM #33
SeraphimR
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So, isn't Bahai explicitly a NWO cult, even if not a dangerous one?

Sex is the mysticism of materialism and the only possible religion in a materialistic society.
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1 year ago  ::  May 08, 2012 - 3:39PM #34
mytmouse57
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May 8, 2012 -- 3:29PM, SeraphimR wrote:


So, isn't Bahai explicitly a NWO cult, even if not a dangerous one?




Yep.


We want syncronized chanting, uniform clothing and only green M&Ms for all. 

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1 year ago  ::  May 08, 2012 - 3:42PM #35
mytmouse57
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May 8, 2012 -- 2:52PM, world citizen wrote:


Attempting to get this thread back on track, I'll offer that the Seal of the Prophets probably didn't condone crude humour (Jewish or otherwise)...


Sometimes moderating can result in   ,  , or just plain  !!


Help me here fellas... 




The way it was explained to me when I first began investigating the Faith made sense.


"Seal" in reference to Muhammed is a symbolic term, in that he was the seal, or last of the prophets for the Adamic cycle. With the apperance of the Bab, a new cycle began.


Therefore, as in Christianity, the "end of the world" or "judgment day" is in terms of a spiritual shift, or end of an age. Not a literal end of the physical world.  

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1 year ago  ::  May 08, 2012 - 3:57PM #36
Aka_me
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May 8, 2012 -- 3:42PM, mytmouse57 wrote:

The way it was explained to me when I first began investigating the Faith made sense.


"Seal" in reference to Muhammed is a symbolic term, in that he was the seal, or last of the prophets for the Adamic cycle. With the apperance of the Bab, a new cycle began.


Therefore, as in Christianity, the "end of the world" or "judgment day" is in terms of a spiritual shift, or end of an age. Not a literal end of the physical world.



that explanation makes sense. by adding a couple more words:


the seal of the prophets for this cycle


would have certainly prevented a great deal of confusion.


I like to think of each of the Manifestations as "the seal of prophets", in that their revelation is...


the most complete to date.

the law of the land? ya, you know... what E Howard Hunt spent his life defending. oh right, executive orders as signed by the president, gotcha!. try telling me Northwoods doesn't ring of 911 with a straight face.
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1 year ago  ::  May 08, 2012 - 4:36PM #37
mytmouse57
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May 8, 2012 -- 3:57PM, Aka_me wrote:


May 8, 2012 -- 3:42PM, mytmouse57 wrote:

The way it was explained to me when I first began investigating the Faith made sense.


"Seal" in reference to Muhammed is a symbolic term, in that he was the seal, or last of the prophets for the Adamic cycle. With the apperance of the Bab, a new cycle began.


Therefore, as in Christianity, the "end of the world" or "judgment day" is in terms of a spiritual shift, or end of an age. Not a literal end of the physical world.



that explanation makes sense. by adding a couple more words:


the seal of the prophets for this cycle


would have certainly prevented a great deal of confusion.


I like to think of each of the Manifestations as "the seal of prophets", in that their revelation is...


the most complete to date.




True. Just as all the Manifestations have been a "son of God." 

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1 year ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 2:31AM #38
Lilwabbit
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Howdy Sera,


I've been missing your intelligent company.


May 8, 2012 -- 3:29PM, SeraphimR wrote:


So, isn't Bahai explicitly a NWO cult, even if not a dangerous one?




Who said we're not a dangerous one? At least I contemplate every morning world-conquest with my army of sinister blood-sucking penguins.


As to your actual question, we could definitely be classified as the NWO religion (I think Bahá'u'lláh even coined the term "new world order"). We predate by a century all the actual NWO cults which mainly started sprouting after the 60s. Bahá'u'lláh was exhorting the world leaders to unite (or else face dire consequences as a natural corollary of divisions) even from his prison in the 19th century by sending out letters to the kings of the world. But the term "cult" is inaccurate and pejorative, if indeed by cult is meant (highlights added):


...a new religious movement or other group whose beliefs or practices are considered abnormal or bizarre. The word originally denoted a system of ritual practices.



If the notion of "world unification by voluntary action by a critical mass of world's peoples and leaders resulting from protracted conflicts" is bizarre and abnormal, in that case the belief-systems known as Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism contain much more cultish doctrines with the only difference that they are "old" religious movements.


Be united, O Kings of the earth, for thereby will the tempest of discord be stilled amongst you, and your people find rest. Should any one among you take up arms against another, rise ye all against him, for this is naught but manifest justice. (Bahá'u'lláh, Message to Queen Victoria, revealed in Adrianople, Ottoman Turkey, in 1868, pg. 12)


These great oppressions are preparing it [humanity] for the advent of the Most Great Justice. (Bahá'u'lláh cited by Shoghi Effendi in The Promised Day is Come, p. 7)


The time must come when the imperative necessity for the holding of a vast, an all-embracing assemblage of men will be universally realized. The rulers and kings of the earth must needs attend it, and, participating in its deliberations, must consider such ways and means as will lay the foundations of the world's Great Peace amongst men. Such a peace demandeth that the Great Powers should resolve, for the sake of the tranquility of the peoples of the earth, to be fully reconciled among themselves. Should any king take up arms against another, all should unitedly arise and prevent him. If this be done, the nations of the world will no longer require any armaments, except for the purpose of preserving the security of their realms and of maintaining internal order within their territories. This will ensure the peace and composure of every people, government and nation. (Bahá'u'lláh, Lawh-i-Maqsúd, revealed in Acre, Palestine, in 1882)


Kind regards,


LilWabbit

"All things have I willed for you, and you too, for your own sake."
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1 year ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 1:12PM #39
Lilwabbit
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I just realized that Bahá'u'lláh may have coined the very term "new world order".


The winds of despair are, alas, blowing from every direction, and the strife that divideth and afflicteth the human race is daily increasing. The signs of impending convulsions and chaos can now be discerned, inasmuch as the prevailing order appeareth to be lamentably defective. I beseech God, exalted be His glory, that He may graciously awaken the peoples of the earth, may grant that the end of their conduct may be profitable unto them, and aid them to accomplish that which beseemeth their station. (Lawh-i-Maqsúd, revealed in 1882, Tablets of Bahá'u'lláh, pp. 171-2)


Soon will the present-day order be rolled up, and a new one spread out in its stead.  Verily, thy Lord speaketh the truth, and is the Knower of things unseen. (Gleanings from the Writings of Bahá'u'lláh, p. 7) 

"All things have I willed for you, and you too, for your own sake."
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1 year ago  ::  May 10, 2012 - 2:12PM #40
Aka_me
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May 9, 2012 -- 1:12PM, Lilwabbit wrote:

I just realized that Bahá'u'lláh may have coined the very term "new world order".



I always took it for granted that most if not all Baha'is having spent time deepening knew Baha'u'llah coined the term "new world order":


The phrase "New World Order" was first used in the sacred texts of the Bahá'í Faith by its founder Bahá'u'lláh in the late 19th century. In the Kitáb-i-Aqdas, considered the most holy of the Bahá'í Faith's many texts, Bahá'u'lláh states,


“The world's equilibrium hath been upset through the vibrating influence of this most great, this new World Order. Mankind's ordered life hath been revolutionized through the agency of this unique, this wondrous System – the like of which mortal eyes have never witnessed.[4]”


question is...


is it coincidental that conspiracy New World Order:


In conspiracy theory, the term New World Order or NWO refers to the emergence of a totalitarian one-world government.


proposes a one world currency using the term Unity In Diversity


when that term was coined in 1938 by Shoghi Effendi


May 9, 2012 -- 2:31AM, Lilwabbit wrote:

As to your actual question, we could definitely be classified as the NWO religion



in my humble opinion...


it is vitally important to use proper terminology to avoid creating confusion.


the Baha'i Faith is not a religion due to not containing dogma, ritual, and ruling class priesthood. otherwise it would be titled Baha'i Religion.


there is currently a subtle backlash going on in culture today against religion, as people are seeking to find spirituality. some astute religions have picked up on this issue and are making their best efforts to call themselves a faith rather than a religion. however a rose by any other name remains a rose and people seeking spirituality are not going to find it in organized religion regardless of it's name.


now that New World Order has been hijacked by the conspiracy types it becomes important to use Global Commonwealth as demonstrated by the Canadian Baha'i. this automatically implies equal representation and NOT dictatorship.

the law of the land? ya, you know... what E Howard Hunt spent his life defending. oh right, executive orders as signed by the president, gotcha!. try telling me Northwoods doesn't ring of 911 with a straight face.
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