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4 years ago  ::  Jul 19, 2010 - 1:48PM #1
Shubee
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The Lord wants His people to follow other methods than that of condemning wrong, even though the condemnation be just. He wants us to do something more than to hurl at our adversaries charges that only drive them further from the truth. The work which Christ came to do in our world was not to erect barriers and constantly thrust upon the people the fact that they were wrong. {6T 121.3}  

He who expects to enlighten a deceived people must come near to them and labor for them in love. He must become a center of holy influence.  {6T 122.1}  

In the advocacy of the truth the bitterest opponents should be treated with respect and deference. Some will not respond to our efforts, but will make light of the gospel invitation. Others--even those whom we suppose to have passed the boundary of God's mercy--will be won to Christ. The very last work in the controversy may be the enlightenment of those who have not rejected light and evidence, but who have been in midnight darkness and have in ignorance worked against the truth. Therefore treat every man as honest. Speak no word, do no deed, that will confirm any in unbelief. {6T 122.2}



 


 

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4 years ago  ::  Jul 19, 2010 - 8:49PM #2
sincerly
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Jul 19, 2010 -- 1:48PM, Shubee wrote:


The Lord wants His people to follow other methods than that of condemning wrong, even though the condemnation be just. He wants us to do something more than to hurl at our adversaries charges that only drive them further from the truth. The work which Christ came to do in our world was not to erect barriers and constantly thrust upon the people the fact that they were wrong. {6T 121.3}  

He who expects to enlighten a deceived people must come near to them and labor for them in love. He must become a center of holy influence.  {6T 122.1}  

In the advocacy of the truth the bitterest opponents should be treated with respect and deference. Some will not respond to our efforts, but will make light of the gospel invitation. Others--even those whom we suppose to have passed the boundary of God's mercy--will be won to Christ. The very last work in the controversy may be the enlightenment of those who have not rejected light and evidence, but who have been in midnight darkness and have in ignorance worked against the truth. Therefore treat every man as honest. Speak no word, do no deed, that will confirm any in unbelief. {6T 122.2} 



Shubert, those excerpt are true., However, Again, In context, they are not saying that the one in unbelief and spiritual darkness aren't to be given the manifest truth in as forceful a manner for the one to understand that GOD means what HE says and disobedience will be met with "I know you not."


Time is short! Shubert, don't you think it's time to stop "kicking against the pricks"??  You are in a no win situation ----Christ knows who are HIS and they know their MASTER.

Peace,   Sincerly.      As long as sin is practiced, one will search for a means to validate the continuing therein. ANON

The greatest want of the world is the want of men--men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall.---- ANON  (Ellen G. White. 1882)
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4 years ago  ::  Jul 21, 2010 - 12:34AM #3
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Jul 19, 2010 -- 1:48PM, Shubee wrote:


The Lord wants His people to follow other methods than that of condemning wrong, even though the condemnation be just. He wants us to do something more than to hurl at our adversaries charges that only drive them further from the truth. The work which Christ came to do in our world was not to erect barriers and constantly thrust upon the people the fact that they were wrong. {6T 121.3}  

He who expects to enlighten a deceived people must come near to them and labor for them in love. He must become a center of holy influence.  {6T 122.1}  

In the advocacy of the truth the bitterest opponents should be treated with respect and deference. Some will not respond to our efforts, but will make light of the gospel invitation. Others--even those whom we suppose to have passed the boundary of God's mercy--will be won to Christ. The very last work in the controversy may be the enlightenment of those who have not rejected light and evidence, but who have been in midnight darkness and have in ignorance worked against the truth. Therefore treat every man as honest. Speak no word, do no deed, that will confirm any in unbelief. {6T 122.2}

 



Shubee wrote
"There is Treason in the Holy Order "


 


Jesus said


John 12


I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.


 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.


He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.


 


Shubees treason is in denying Jesus words. He usually stands in direct conflict with his HOLY ORDER.

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4 years ago  ::  Jul 24, 2010 - 4:30PM #4
sincerly
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Shubert, re-read my last post. EGW's excerpts are true. However, the context doesn't correspond to your conclusions/claims and, therefore, makes you comments----false.

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Peace,   Sincerly.      As long as sin is practiced, one will search for a means to validate the continuing therein. ANON

The greatest want of the world is the want of men--men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall.---- ANON  (Ellen G. White. 1882)
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4 years ago  ::  Jul 25, 2010 - 10:15PM #5
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Every right motive, every right principle violated prepares the soul for scheming and dishonesty. Those who follow such a course are making crooked paths for their feet, by which the lame will be turned out of the way. God hates these crooked practices. Christ died that he might take away our sins. He did not come that he might save us in our sins. But crooked paths and crooked practices have been sought out by some professing to believe the truth, and all that ingenuity could suggest has been taken to injure the cause of God. These plans and devices have been working like unholy leaven, just as the leaven of the Pharisees worked when Christ was on earth. All this has been done against the Lord Jesus. He has been betrayed by the wrong course of action followed, and the synagogue of Satan has triumphed.  {1888 1670.1}

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4 years ago  ::  Jul 27, 2010 - 1:15AM #6
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Jul 25, 2010 -- 10:15PM, Shubee wrote:


Every right motive, every right principle violated prepares the soul for scheming and dishonesty. Those who follow such a course are making crooked paths for their feet, by which the lame will be turned out of the way. God hates these crooked practices. Christ died that he might take away our sins. He did not come that he might save us in our sins. But crooked paths and crooked practices have been sought out by some professing to believe the truth, and all that ingenuity could suggest has been taken to injure the cause of God. These plans and devices have been working like unholy leaven, just as the leaven of the Pharisees worked when Christ was on earth. All this has been done against the Lord Jesus. He has been betrayed by the wrong course of action followed, and the synagogue of Satan has triumphed.  {1888 1670.1}





Shubert, you have professed to be A SDA and used EGW's writings as if you believed them while twisting her writings with your own conclusions. She could have been writing this about you and your attitude as expressed in your posts.

Peace,   Sincerly.      As long as sin is practiced, one will search for a means to validate the continuing therein. ANON

The greatest want of the world is the want of men--men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall.---- ANON  (Ellen G. White. 1882)
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