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10 months ago  ::  Aug 03, 2012 - 12:27AM #5621
El Cid
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Jul 14, 2012 -- 12:32AM, Ken wrote:


Jul 14, 2012 -- 12:16AM, El Cid wrote:

Christians can eat shelffish. No, Lot's wife was killed for willfully disobeying a direct commmand of God.



Swell. Lot's wife is killed for disobeying a direct command of God while Christians get to eat shellfish even though God directly commanded them not to.


Screwed up religion you've got there.





No, He directly commanded the ancient hebrews not to. Remember Christ changed that law, He said it is not what a man puts in his mouth that defiles him, but rather what comes out of the man's mouth.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 03, 2012 - 10:14AM #5622
Blü
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Cid


Remember Christ changed that law


Why do you fundies never actually read your bibles?


Matthew 5:


17 "Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfil them.
18  For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished.


And clearly all is NOT accomplished since heaven might have passed away - that would account for why Jesus' return is now close to two thousand years behind schedule - but earth certainly hasn't, and won't until Jesus has in fact returned and brought in the Kingdom.


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10 months ago  ::  Aug 03, 2012 - 10:20AM #5623
Sacrificialgoddess
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Aug 3, 2012 -- 12:27AM, El Cid wrote:


Jul 14, 2012 -- 12:32AM, Ken wrote:


Jul 14, 2012 -- 12:16AM, El Cid wrote:

Christians can eat shelffish. No, Lot's wife was killed for willfully disobeying a direct commmand of God.



Swell. Lot's wife is killed for disobeying a direct command of God while Christians get to eat shellfish even though God directly commanded them not to.


Screwed up religion you've got there.





No, He directly commanded the ancient hebrews not to. Remember Christ changed that law, He said it is not what a man puts in his mouth that defiles him, but rather what comes out of the man's mouth.




The old testament applies. Except when it doesn't. It seems Christians cherry pick to define their comfort zone. It's sad, really.

Dark Energy. It can be found in the observable Universe. Found in ratios of 75% more than any other substance. Dark Energy. It can be found in religious extremists, in cheerleaders. To come to the conclusion that Dark signifies mean and malevolent would define 75% of the Universe as an evil force. Alternatively, to think that some cheerleaders don't have razors in their snatch is to be foolishly unarmed.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 03, 2012 - 11:32AM #5624
JCarlin
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Aug 3, 2012 -- 11:05AM, Aka_me wrote:

there is only one creator.


There is no creator, and even if there were there is no god that could be identified with it.

Moderated by Merope on Aug 03, 2012 - 07:30PM
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 03, 2012 - 12:23PM #5625
wohali
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"Creator gods" evidently are extremly common:


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creator_god


Rather like other myths.


Aka_me:


"there is only one creator"


Let me guess: It's the one that you believe in?

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 03, 2012 - 8:32PM #5626
mainecaptain
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Aug 3, 2012 -- 11:05AM, Aka_me wrote:


Aug 2, 2012 -- 6:29PM, mainecaptain wrote:

Thanks. I grow tired of Abrahamics misusing the word god to make their god seem more special than any other gods.



fairy tale snow whites of the small g group don't claim to have created the universe... making 'em a dime a dozen.




there is only one creator.


there are how many gods?


that was a joke, the gods don't even know.




Not true, there are many creator gods, the abrahamic is no more important then any other.



You just like being disrespectful of those who follow other gods. Is that what you learned from your god, to be disrespectful?  Not a very nice god, perhaps just a god  with a big ego.  Like men with big trucks to make up for little other parts.



You may not like it, but the abrahamic god is not better, or more a god then any other, he is just a middle eastern tribal god. Nothing more. Nothing more

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 03, 2012 - 9:30PM #5627
mountain_man
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Aug 3, 2012 -- 11:05AM, Aka_me wrote:

there is only one creator.


You can't even prove there is a creator, or a need for one, so you cannot claim there is only one.


there are how many gods?


None.


that was a joke, the gods don't even know.


That's because they are made up.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 04, 2012 - 12:01AM #5628
chevy956
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Aug 2, 2012 -- 7:39PM, Sacrificialgoddess wrote:

Aug 2, 2012 -- 7:33PM, chevy956 wrote:

Aug 2, 2012 -- 5:31PM, Aka_me wrote:


Aug 2, 2012 -- 5:28PM, Sacrificialgoddess wrote:

That means your god isn't actually a god, then.



I think the atheists would agree with me on that point. You aren't being logical. Or consistent. At all.



Creator, is denoted using a big G... God


Indeed, it would be rather juvenile to misspell God simply in order to insult theists.




As there is no evidence of any god creating anything, the small "g" works just fine.


If you don't like it, as they say in Russia, tough shitski. I'm not in the business of kissing theists asses.




1. God is not a name; it is a job description. 2. My gods aren't so petty as to give to cents whether I stick a big G on there or not. I am a theist. I just don't use the word god to refer to any particular being.


Goddess, my apologies for my terrible editing skills. I meant to respond directly to AKA. No offense to you intended

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 04, 2012 - 12:04AM #5629
chevy956
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Aug 3, 2012 -- 11:05AM, Aka_me wrote:

Aug 2, 2012 -- 6:29PM, mainecaptain wrote:

Thanks. I grow tired of Abrahamics misusing the word god to make their god seem more special than any other gods.



fairy tale snow whites of the small g group don't claim to have created the universe... making 'em a dime a dozen.


special - of a distinct or particular kind or character: a special kind of key.


there is only one creator.


there are how many gods?


that was a joke, the gods don't even know.


"there is only one creator."


PROVE IT....

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 04, 2012 - 12:51AM #5630
El Cid
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Jul 16, 2012 -- 12:41AM, mountain_man wrote:


ec: It never was offical policy to wage genocide against them. .....


mm: Again, in your haste to blindly defend the christian religion; it was official policy to kill off the Native Americans. One reason was that they were not christian.



Evidence?


ec: Most were ahead of their time, such as freedom of conscience and religion, which is in fact a Christian principle.


mm: No, there is no such thing in the christian religion.



Fraid so, Christ and His disciples never forced anyone to convert.  


mm: The founders of the USA went AGAINST christian principles.



Absurd. John Adams:"Religion (Christianity) and virtue are the only foundations, not only of republicanism and of all free governments, but of social felicity under all governments and in all combinations of human society. Science, liberty, and religion (Christianity) are choicest blessings of humanity: without their joint influence no society can be great, flourishing, or happy."


Rev. John Witherspoon: "He is the best friend to American liberty who is the most sincere and active in promoting true and undefiled religion, and who sets himself with the greatest firmness to bear down profanity and immorality of every kind."


And I could many more founding fathers with the same sentiments.


ec: They are, see the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence. Such as "all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights."


mm: If you were to ever study the history of the USA you would know just how wrong that statement is. Until then, you'll just have to remain ignorant. The "creator" they were talking about was definitely NOT the christian god.



Only the Judeo-Christian God ever endowed humans with rights and created all men equal. The Deist god plainly did not, it only got the unverse started then it stepped away.


 

ec: Because almost all the state constitutions mention it explicitly.....They do not.



Fraid so, read Christianity and the American Commonwealth by Charles Galloway and The United States: A Christian Nation by Supreme Court Justice David Brewer.


ec: Your christian god is blatantly - AND PURPOSELY - absent from the US Constitution. This country, BY LAW, was in no way founded on the christian religion. In fact, it was founded in opposition to many of the christian beliefs at the time. The Founders did not have to look into the past very far to see that christian based governments did not treat their people very well.



No, see above about the founders.


Heres another, John Quincy Adams said "America's ministers have connected with one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity." 

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