May 6, 2012 -- 11:25AM, christine3 wrote:

'aDoNaY
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"'aDoNaY is translated as Lord, meaning controller, ruler, master, introduced in
Job 28:28."

JOB 28:28 New International Version (NIV)

And he said, "The fear of the Lord--that is wisdom, 

and to shun evil is understanding."

Once you have taken hook, they will tell you who and what is evil because they know you believe them.

Any god that requires subjects to fear/worship him-her-it, is the poster boy for a controlled cult.  Then the Jesus person comes along and says to love each other, but it can't be done because subjects are still controlled by the other god that taught them to fear and do what the church people tell their children to do, fear others.  And the others are beasts worthy of death because they do not believe and are evil. I've seen that-it is no good. 

Gods do not require subjects to fear them, people do.

May 7, 2012 -- 12:24AM, El Cid wrote:

No, without God you are just a bag of chemicals and your choices and behavior are determined by the ratio of reagents in your bag not on weighing evidence with logical thinking.

That's pretty much a non sequitur. Your reply has nothing to do with what I said about Free Will.  Since gods do not exist and our behavior is not determined as you claim above, there must be something you're leaving out our not understanding.

Just because you know what you are going to do is not equivalent to actually doing it.

Essentially, yes, it does. If you were going to do something else, you'd know that too. The only way out of this is to admit your god is not omniscient.

Once you know the smell of one fart, why smell anymore. He doesn't care what farts smell like so He can choose not to smell them just like us.

Evidence?

May 7, 2012 -- 12:24AM, El Cid wrote:

No, without God you are just a bag of chemicals and your choices and behavior are determined by the ratio of reagents in your bag not on weighing evidence with logical thinking.

We are all just bags of chemicals, but bags of chemicals are rather wonderful. These bags of chemicals do a number of interesting things, such as (in some cases) weighing evidence with logical thinking. Thinking, whether logical or illogical, is done entirely with chemicals and cannot be done without them. As your God isn't composed of chemicals, he can't think.

Once you know the smell of one fart, why smell anymore. He doesn't care what farts smell like so He can choose not to smell them just like us.

To be omniscient is to know everything. An omniscient deity must know the smell of every fart ever farted. If there is even one fart that he does not know, he is not omniscient.

May 7, 2012 -- 12:24AM, El Cid wrote:

No, without God you are just a bag of chemicals and your choices and behavior are determined by the ratio of reagents in your bag not on weighing evidence with logical thinking.

If your idea of god really existed and what you think about it is true, then belief one way or the other doesn't matter.  It would be a matter of what evidence we have available to us as human beings to conclude that any sort of god exists and works a certain way.  As it happens we humans have no evidence that supports what you claim is true.

It doesn't meant anything that folks like you have decided that humans are special.