Sep 17, 2011 -- 3:03AM, Ibn wrote:

I say, if you are a Muslim, whether in "Arab Spring", Libya, Syria, Iran, Pakistan, Turkey, Afghanistan, or living even in the West, and say ALLAHU AKBAR, you are almost certain to be labelled "Islamist", sooner or later. That's how politics work. 

Precisely. The Iranian youth shouted Allah'u'Akbar on the roofs of Tehran during the 2009 demonstrations against the "Islamic" regime and its Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei.

Though not a Muslim, I find the following nashíd by Sami Yusuf (a British Muslim of Iranian Azeri descent) beautiful and meaningful. It's called Asma Allah (Names of God) and it is recited in Arabic (with English subtitles). Sami Yusuf basically just mentions some of the many names of Allah mentioned in the Qur'án. It ends with a glorious repeat of Allah'u'Akbar which may appeal to the Western "modern" audience better than some of the more traditional nashíds.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhwdEtO5fJE

With kind regards,

LilWabbit

Why is this thread on this board?  It's not about Islam.  

Howdy

The reason that Islamism is on this board is because "Islamism (Islam+-ism; Arabic: الاسلامية ‎ al-ʾislāmiyyah) also Arabic: إسلام سياسي‎ ʾIslām siyāsī , lit., "Political Islam" is a set of ideologies holding that Islam is not only a religion but also a political system; that modern Muslims must return to the roots of their religion, and unite politically".

Sep 17, 2011 -- 3:46PM, IDBC wrote:

Howdy

The reason that Islamism is on this board is because "Islamism (Islam+-ism; Arabic: الاسلامية ‎ al-ʾislāmiyyah) also Arabic: إسلام سياسي‎ ʾIslām siyāsī , lit., "Political Islam" is a set of ideologies holding that Islam is not only a religion but also a political system; that modern Muslims must return to the roots of their religion, and unite politically".

If it is about political system then Islamism should be on politics board.

The real politics behind it is much deeper and nothing to do with Islam. When bearded Libyans join politics, shouting "ALLAHU AKBAR", with aims to kill fellow citizens, to have politocal power, they are not called "Islamist" nor are they in "Islamism" but they are called "rebels". The moment they do the same against non-muslims, they would certainly be called "Islamist" and their politics "Islamism".

Peace

Ibn 

Sep 17, 2011 -- 4:33PM, Miraj wrote:

Sep 17, 2011 -- 4:24PM, Ibn wrote:

Sep 17, 2011 -- 3:46PM, IDBC wrote:

Howdy

The reason that Islamism is on this board is because "Islamism (Islam+-ism; Arabic: الاسلامية ‎ al-ʾislāmiyyah) also Arabic: إسلام سياسي‎ ʾIslām siyāsī , lit., "Political Islam" is a set of ideologies holding that Islam is not only a religion but also a political system; that modern Muslims must return to the roots of their religion, and unite politically".

If it is about political system then Islamism should be on politics board.

The real politics behind it is much deeper and nothing to do with Islam. When bearded Libyans join politics, shouting "ALLAHU AKBAR", with aims to kill fellow citizens, to have politocal power, they are not called "Islamist" nor are they in "Islamism" but they are called "rebels". The moment they do the same against non-muslims, they would certainly be called "Islamist" and their politics "Islamism".

Peace

Ibn 

That's an excellent point.  The majority of the victims of radical Muslims are people in Muslim countries.  Their agenda is about revolution, not Islam. You don't kill your own brethren to further the faith.

Even the word "radical" is applied for something else when it comes to Muslims than what Blair had used for himself. He had expressed his idea as "radical ideas". Blair was a "radical". Personally, I don't think these "radical Muslims" are really radical. A Radical Muslim would have a lot better ideas than these people killing the people in their own faith.

Salaam

Ibn