Jun 3, 2010 -- 12:52PM, Girlchristian wrote:

You still haven't answered my question. Is ackowledging sin slander? If I say murder is sin (very clear directive in the Bible) is that slander? If I say pride (also very clear) is sin is that slander? Or is it only slander when you don't believe the sin in question is actually a sin?

Yes, I did. I said acknowledging your own sin is not slander. 

What is murder?  God told Joshua to kill babies in Jericho.  Was that murder?  We have capital punishment in many US states--is an executioner a murderer?  Was Gen. Rommell attempting murder against Hitler?  It is not quite as clear as you think.

Not to mention there is a clear harm to someone who is killed, or from whom something is stolen.  What is the harm to you if someone is gay?

Larosser, on the issue of marijuana-

I can see the legitimate interest on the part of government in regulating "private vices" which cause damage to society as a whole. 

The problem, of course, is that certain of these private vices cause vastly more public harm than marijuana.  Alcohol, for one, and especially tobacco.  But these are so engrained in the fabric of our society that attempts to ban them entirely are not (yet) workable.  This was of course tried (and failed) in the case of alcohol; though  I can see the day when public opinion might allow a total ban on tobacco.  But the other factor in these cases is the large financial vested interest on the part of the alcohol and tobacco industries; marijuana has no such lobby in DC.

Jun 3, 2010 -- 5:16PM, Christianlib wrote:

Yeah, man...

(toke, toke)

One of these days we're gonna REALLY lobby Washington.

(toke, toke)

Man, we'll be so stromg, and all our reasons........uh, reasonable.

('ear, you hit it.)

Quit bogartin', man.

(toke, nose hit)

Yep, all those congressmen will just, they'll just, they'll, SHIT, man, they'll just shit cause we're so cool.

One of these days, man.  You got any chips and dip?

Marijuana is going to be legalized in this country before you know it...and, when it does, all the hysteria and all the stereotyping and all the overused cliches about potheads will simply evaporate into the sky and float away like all the others that came before.

Actually, most states have expanded their DUI to include driving under the influence of any drugs. I think they should go ahead and legalize pot simply so they can sock it with all the same taxes that tobacco sales continue to generate. everybody was sure it was going to be legalized or at least decriminalized. Indiana (my home state) laws were overkill when I was a teen. Having any on you--even a joint--was a felony. so when the narcs came and talked to us and  stressed that if we were really someone's friend we should tell their parents or turn them in to the police it went over like the proverbial lead balloon.

You'd think the politicians who are screwing around would be thrilled to have more of the voters too m ellow to care about how hypocritical they were. My mother's boss was a conservative Republican who got targetted by the religious right for having said that he didn't think the government should be involved in abortions and it should be between a woman, her doctor and God. He never said he was for them, just that the government should stay out of it. I passed along the comment that I'd never dreamed I'd see the day that he would be the liberal in an election. He lost--who could match those war chests? I understand some of the commercials were vicious.

which gets us back to Mr.Wonderful, who played his virtues and God-fearing Family Values roles as often and as loudly as he could get someone else to pay for it. It's amazing how vicious some of these chest-thumpers are until they get caught isn't it? They certainly want more sympathy, forgiveness, and amnesia than they've ever dished out themselves.

Too bad we have such a long line of hypocrites slathering to take their place, isn't it?

May 18, 2010 -- 12:01PM, Do_unto_others wrote:

Can't wait for the firestorm of oppobrium that will surround Republican Souder.

 

Souder once said he is “most defined by the fact that I'm an evangelical Christian.”

"I sinned against God, my wife and my family" is beginning to sound like rote drivel.

Read more: swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/05/18/soud...

I am from the area where he was a representative and the only thing about this that bothered me was the fact that despite how horrible and incompetent he was at his job, it took an affair to get him out of office. He never listened to any of us and didn't give a @#$% about our opinions. He is an example that religion should not be a factor in politics, although nowadays it seems to be the only thing that people seem to care about. But I knew him on a more personal level and have met him several times. He's a total dick. His affair had no effect on my opinion of him. I was just glad to see him finally out of office.

On another note, I don't think it should matter what religion someone is when it comes to morality. I'm a Pagan and if I had an affair it would be against my beliefs just as much as any other religion. We all have morality, just different ways of practicing and expressing it.