Aug 4, 2010 -- 6:23PM, Kingdom357 wrote:

You have a lot of nerve criticizing me. You are following a Philosopher, who lived in the 12th century in Spain.  He and his family were ejected from Spain and moved to Eygpt where he studied Islam.  Islam my friend, does not believe Israel  to be important and does not thing the Hebrew scriptures are worth anything.  Congradulations on becoming a Muslim.

BS"D

Didn't mean to offend you, just kick you in the behind a bit so you might open your eyes.  Jews don't follow ANYBODY.  Jews follow Torah and part of Torah is correcting each other.  Your history is quite a bit lacking all the way around the block.  Better to learn something about the subject before you speak of it IMHO. 

Kingdom, just because people disagree with you doesn't mean they are criticizing or being mean. Granted, some might not say it in the nicest way, but challenging and disagreeing is what people do on a debate board.

Kingdom -  Post 372 – This thread:  Christian Interpretation –versus Jewish interpretation:  2010

Kingdom admitted on this thread: “By the way, I was Avie, and then as now, I did not come to insult the Jews.  My mother was a Jew and I loved her very much.  My Aunts and Uncles and cousins were all Jews and I loved them as well.  Unfortunately they have all passed away.  I can't ask them anything anymore now can I”

Avie came on the Archaeology and the Bible forum as a fundamentalist evangelist and even though the thread was supposed to be about NEW discoveries and  ’only on new discoveries on "Archaeology and the Bible" , Avie disrupted many threads by constantly evangelizing and putting down Jews.  Here’s but 2 examples in the following thread.   Many more on other threads I have saved. 

www.beliefnet.com/boards/message_list.as...

Avie  (wrote)  in the following posts of that forum.  Bible vs History    It also appeared in MJD and in Judaism-Challenge and Critique (as the Jewish forum was once called.) After that and more,  she was removed from the Jewish forum.  Avie wrote:
 
”I can also truthfully state that the Jewish treatment of Christians down through the ages has not been all that wonderful. Also, the Jews were kicked out of so many countries because they all wanted to make money. They became very unpopular because they held positions that were unpopular. They were tax collectors and money merchants. People didn't like them. Not just Christians. They were denied their freedom by Muslims too. So stop blaming it all on Christians. It's just an out and out lie.”  [Post 38]
 
”As for what I posted, I posted the truth. I know that's hard for you to understand. The only thing people have against the Jews over time, is the fact that their greed runs away with them. It is a historical fact. What Jews call Anti-Semitism has nothing whatsoever to do with their religion. People dislike them not for their religious beliefs but for their greed and obnoxious behavior. There is very little anti-Semitism about it.”   [Post 43] 

Probably best to read it all.  I guess the poster didn't understand that the Church set interest rates for the Jews to lend money, and the lending was needed so that the Christian countries and their churches could finance business opportunities, commerce, trade and their many. many  wars.  Lending money was forbidden by the churches in the middle ages so Jews who in the past only lent money to each other were now forced to loan money to the Christians..  However, often the churches or the nobles or anyone in a trade couldn't pay back the Jews, thus they made them leave the country and accused them of all sorts of lies, which Avie/Kingdom wrote about.  And that's why people didn't like them.  They didn't want to pay back money they were loaned.  When the Churches finally realized how badly they needed money lenders (banks) they recinded the law and the Christians got into it.  However, if one reads their history, they will realize that the interest rates set by the Christians was much higher than that set by the Jews.  Therefore many preferred going to the Jews where the interest rates were lower and set by the Church. 

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In one of her posts, 'a/k' claimed she used the Fordham U site  and could not locate ANY material relating to Christian persecution of Jews.

www.fordham.edu/Halsall/ancient/asbook11...  <-- a general 'source' site for ancient history, with documents of the period translated - and then commentary from a RC Christian POV (as expected)

At the top of that page, we find the links above.  Now I can't be certain those links were there 8 years ago - but certainly today one simply has to click on the 'Jewish' history link to access a source of information of EXACTLY the type 'a/k' claimed she couldn't locate.