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4 years ago  ::  Apr 05, 2010 - 10:34PM #1
Miguel_de_servet
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Yes, true, it is still a comfortable 6 months away, safely past the political quagmire of the British General Elections, but it is getting closer and closer, so Jon Snow, of BBC's Channel Four News started asking the fatidic question, What reception will the Pope receive in Britain? (@ blogs.channel4.com), in  September, when he will (should?) come ...


“Amongst some Catholic sources here, whom I have spoken to, and some temporal ones too, there is already a real fear that matters will get much worse on the child abuse front; and that come September there will be a good number of Catholics and non-Catholics alike who will seriously regret ever inviting him.”


... is the not so encouraging conclusion of the article ...


MdS


P.S. For the moment Benny's advisers have suggested him to do a VSST (#) on Malta, the former British possession, but even there the outlook, on the PPF (§) is dismal (see Let the children come to me... @ maltatoday.com)


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(§) Priestly Pedophilia Front

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4 years ago  ::  Apr 05, 2010 - 10:42PM #2
cherubino
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What's so unusual or remarkable about two old queens having tea?

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4 years ago  ::  Apr 05, 2010 - 10:58PM #3
jane2
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Apr 5, 2010 -- 10:42PM, cherubino wrote:


What's so unusual or remarkable about two old queens having tea?




Made me laugh..................

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4 years ago  ::  Apr 06, 2010 - 3:20PM #4
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The Pope is scheduled for a closed door conference with the Archbishop of Canterbury and a group of Anglican bishops.  I'd suggest that all attendees pass through a metal detector first.Wink


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4 years ago  ::  Apr 06, 2010 - 4:52PM #5
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Apr 6, 2010 -- 3:20PM, Dutch777 wrote:


The Pope is scheduled for a closed door conference with the Archbishop of Canterbury and a group of Anglican bishops.  I'd suggest that all attendees pass through a metal detector first.Wink


www.flickr.com/photos/scottmoody/3287332682




I think that they will choose one Bishop and then play a three handed game of bjong.  Is that the game that you referred to on another site, on another day? Smile  

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4 years ago  ::  Apr 06, 2010 - 6:19PM #6
Dutch777
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Hi Steve:


You're probably referring to Mah Jong; a passtime of the older folks.


Then there's Bong; a passtime of the younger people.Wink

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4 years ago  ::  Apr 07, 2010 - 2:05AM #7
Miguel_de_servet
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Apparently Lizzy2 loves Nintendo best ...


Mario


 

Revelation is above, not against Reason

“The everlasting God is a refuge, and underneath you are his eternal arms ...” (Deut 33:27)
“Do you have an arm like God, and can you thunder with a voice like his?” (Job 40:9)
“By the Lord’s word [dabar] the heavens were made; and by the breath [ruwach] of his mouth all their host.” (Psalm 33:6)
“Who would have believed what we just heard? When was the arm of the Lord revealed through him?” (Isaiah 53:1)
“Lord, who has believed our message, and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?” (John 12:38)
“For not the hearers of the law are righteous before God, but the doers of the law will be declared righteous.” (Romans 2:13)

“Owe no one anything, except to love one another, for the one who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law.”(Romans 13:8)
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4 years ago  ::  Apr 12, 2010 - 6:20PM #8
Miguel_de_servet
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From TIMESONLINE


Probably Dick Dawk is not serious, and (as usual ...) just seeks attention (Richard Dawkins calls for arrest of Pope Benedict XVI, by April 11, 2010, @ timesonline.co.uk).


But see what Libby says (Arrest the Pope? I rather think we should, The sin of making victims and the community complicit in the abuse cover-up is still not acknowledged, by  April 12, 2010, @ timesonline.co.uk)



Mario


 

Revelation is above, not against Reason

“The everlasting God is a refuge, and underneath you are his eternal arms ...” (Deut 33:27)
“Do you have an arm like God, and can you thunder with a voice like his?” (Job 40:9)
“By the Lord’s word [dabar] the heavens were made; and by the breath [ruwach] of his mouth all their host.” (Psalm 33:6)
“Who would have believed what we just heard? When was the arm of the Lord revealed through him?” (Isaiah 53:1)
“Lord, who has believed our message, and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?” (John 12:38)
“For not the hearers of the law are righteous before God, but the doers of the law will be declared righteous.” (Romans 2:13)

“Owe no one anything, except to love one another, for the one who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law.”(Romans 13:8)
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4 years ago  ::  Apr 12, 2010 - 10:02PM #9
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If this report from the Catholic News Service is correct, perhaps the Pope would be wise to cancel his planned trip to England.


"Meanwhile, in Britain, The Associated Press reported that attorneys are investigating whether Pope Benedict could be charged upon his arrival in England this September under the principle of universal jurisdiction, an element of international law, for an "alleged systemic coverup of sexual abuses by priests."

"In an article published April 2 in the British newspaper The Guardian, human rights attorney Geoffrey Robertson, who served as an appeal judge at the U.N.-backed Special Court for Sierra Leone, argued that the claim to sovereign immunity could be challenged successfully in the United Kingdom and in the European Court of Human Rights.

"He also said sovereign immunity would provide no protection for the pope in an international criminal court, under the definition of crimes against humanity, which "includes rape and sexual slavery and other similarly inhumane acts causing harm to mental or physical health, committed against civilians on a widespread or systematic scale, if condoned by a government or a de facto authority."

"If acts of sexual abuse by priests are not isolated or sporadic, but part of a wide practice both known to and unpunished by their de facto authority," Robertson wrote, "then they fall within the temporal jurisdiction of the (international criminal court) -- if that practice continued after July 2002, when the court was established."


 


www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/10...


 

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4 years ago  ::  Apr 13, 2010 - 9:51PM #10
fishylishy
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Apr 5, 2010 -- 10:34PM, Miguel_de_servet wrote:


Yes, true, it is still a comfortable 6 months away, safely past the political quagmire of the British General Elections, but it is getting closer and closer, so Jon Snow, of BBC's Channel Four News started asking the fatidic question, What reception will the Pope receive in Britain? (@ blogs.channel4.com), in  September, when he will (should?) come ...


“Amongst some Catholic sources here, whom I have spoken to, and some temporal ones too, there is already a real fear that matters will get much worse on the child abuse front; and that come September there will be a good number of Catholics and non-Catholics alike who will seriously regret ever inviting him.”


... is the not so encouraging conclusion of the article ...


MdS


P.S. For the moment Benny's advisers have suggested him to do a VSST (#) on Malta, the former British possession, but even there the outlook, on the PPF (§) is dismal (see Let the children come to me... @ maltatoday.com)


(#) Very Small Scale Test


(§) Priestly Pedophilia Front



## With any luck, he won't come here at all. IMNSHO, he should stay in his diocese and clean that up. before coming here or go to any other country; it's not as though there were not plenty of  muck for him to clean up in Rome. I just hope that, whoever wins the General Election - which is on May 6 - the Pope can be told that he will not be welcome here. What is the good of his coming to the UK when his credibility has been so seriously  undermined ? As for the intended beatification - that can always be done in Rome.


(Is there anyone else from Britain here BTW :) ? - no answer needed; I'm just wondering.)    

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