You can take any verse out of the bible and apply it to various events, such as the tsunami, or the catastrophe in Haiti or any other parts of the world.  Last night another tornado destoryed nearly a whole city in Missouri, took many lives, and nobody on this forum would think it had anything to do with being pagan, or not Christian,  because the south and mid-west are the most fundamental Christians in this country.  And this is not the first time these tornados have destroyed parts of the mid-west and south.  Or hurricanes have destroyed cities close to the Gulf where most all are Christians.  So Christians think the destruction to their homes has nothing to do with their religions, but when it hits someplace that's not Christian... Wham!  It's God punishment.  What nonsense.  Reminds me of the prediction that the End of the World will be coming and tons of people believed it, and the guy who started it made tons of money.  I hear he's a multi-millionaire now.  But then lots of those preacher guys are very rich. 

If you believe every word of the bible you will be steered wrong.  The bible is a book of legends, beliefs and stories.  No one can prove otherwise.  No one.    Very little of it can be confirmed.  Very little of it.  One can learn good and bad from the bible as in thousands of other books, legends and stories.  One should take the good and ignore the bad.  We don't know what the character of the people were who wrote different verses or portions of the bible, except what you've been taught about them.  They wrote what they believed or what gave them power, but that doesn't mean their beliefs were right or good.  Same is true of those who follow their writings.

I can not understand why, this type of Christian is always saying such terrible things about their own god.

Because no matter how you cut it, whether you believe it is the Christian god causing these disasters, or allowing the devil to do it you are blaming your own god.

Sad.

I have also noticed no one has picked up the gauntlet and responded, in any way, except you and I River

May 24, 2011 -- 1:00PM, mainecaptain wrote:

I can not understand why, this type of Christian is always saying such terrible things about their own god.

Because no matter how you cut it, whether you believe it is the Christian god causing these disasters, or allowing the devil to do it you are blaming your own god.

Sad.

I have also noticed no one has picked up the gauntlet and responded, in any way, except you and I River

You're right.  That's because they can't, and still claim to be believing fundamentalist Christians.  And also because neither you nor I read nor interpret the bible literally.

I'd say He's working overtime in Texas right now.  How about all those fires down in Texas with a "governor" who wants to be president, supports Capital Punishment and is proud of all the people he's murdered,  And then, he pretends he's a preacher at the same time.  He wants Texas to break from the union.  (which wouldn't bother me at all)  Less guns in the country for one thing.    Think all those Xians down in Texas practice voodoo?   It seems some on this forum think that when bad things happen to some populations it's because God doesn't approve of them, or their religion isn't Christian.  But when bad things happen to "so called good believing Christians",  nothing is said because God had nothing to do with it.  Now, how does that make sense?  

Forgot who posted it, but thanks for that Screwtape letter! 

Apr 7, 2012 -- 10:15AM, river8101 wrote:

Big tornado in Christian Texas this past week.  Terrible distruction.  How can that happen to such religious Christians?  Maybe it has nothing to do with whether you follow some sort of Christian religion.  Maybe it's because thats the way nature is.  And your good deeds or sins have absolutely nothing to do with it.   Or maybe the story of God isnt' true.  Maybe such an identity only exists in your head from people who taught it to you.  In other words, maybe there's no God at all.  Just us and nature. And nature doesn't care whether we are good or bad, believers or non believers when storms and plagues destory our lives.

Or maybe it is a test by god to see if xtians  "really" love god? 

Or maybe it is a punishment by god to those chrisitans who are naughty? 

Or maybe it is part of "god's plan"   that christians  are  not  intelligent enough to understand?

Or maybe it is simply a natural event that has nothing whatsoever to do with god? 

Whatever the answer is, it does not change the fact that the  effects of the tornado as well as  other acts of nature,  wether god had  a  hand in it or not  do exist.