| 4 years ago :: Sep 23, 2009 - 7:22PM #1 | |
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| 4 years ago :: Sep 24, 2009 - 4:59PM #2 | |
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nay_ho_tze, Reincarnation is absolutely contrary to Christian faith. To argue otherwise is to grossly mischaracterize Christianity and its central belief of personal salvation.
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| 4 years ago :: Sep 25, 2009 - 8:34PM #3 | |
Sonnymoon writes: Reincarnation is absolutely contrary to Christian faith. |
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| 4 years ago :: Sep 26, 2009 - 7:47PM #4 | |
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There were many variants in beliefs in the early days of Christianity, one of which was Gnosticism. I don't think it's possible to prove conclusively that any partcular set of ideas was 'truer' that another set (i.e. that concepts such as reincarnation and the 'sacred feminine' were part of the 'real' Christianity before being rejecetd by corrupt Church leaders). Christian beliefs evolved over a period of time before becoming codified into pretty much into what it is today. Some writings were left out of what is now known as the New Testament, for reasons we can only surmise. You would, however, be hard pressed to find a mainstream Christian who would say that reincarnation is part of current Christian doctrine.
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| 4 years ago :: Sep 26, 2009 - 8:43PM #5 | |
sonnymoon writes: You would, however, be hard pressed to find a mainstream Christian who |
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| 4 years ago :: Sep 28, 2009 - 4:33PM #6 | |
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I think both assumptions about the afterlife--salvation or reincarnation--are wrong. My feeling is that the brain is the seat of consciousness, and when our bodies die, so does that thing we call "spirit." Poof! That's the end of it. Nothing comes after, no heaven, hell, or next life. It's a little depressing, I admit; I would rather think that when I kick the bucket my some part of me floats away into the ether and carries on.
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| 4 years ago :: Sep 30, 2009 - 8:29PM #7 | |
Sunnymoon writes: My feeling is that the brain is the seat of consciousness,.. |
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| 4 years ago :: Oct 01, 2009 - 10:25AM #8 | |
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Nay_ho_tze, Just as the heart is the organ that circulates blood, the brain is the organ that makes us sentient. Remove one organ or the other, and life--and with it, awareness--ceases. I could be wrong, of course, but it seems to me that consciousness is not a separate entity. Mind (or spirit, if you wish) and body are one. |
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| 4 years ago :: Oct 01, 2009 - 1:51PM #9 | |
If you're saying heart : blood = brain : consciousness =] |
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| 4 years ago :: Oct 01, 2009 - 2:29PM #10 | |
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You're right; it is a faulty analogy; I meant only that the heart and the brain are both vital organs, each of which serve a unique function in our physical well-being. Perhaps, though, you could look at it this way: The heart is the center of the human circulatory system, which delivers oxygen to the body via the blood vessels. The brain is the center of the central nervous system, which sends electrochemical impulses throughout the body. Those impulses provide sensory input (via eyes, ears, etc.) and enable us to respond appropriately. The same impulses are responsible for our emotions, thoughts, and memories; in short , our consciousness. If you remove the neurons, or destroy the pathways along which the impulses travel, how is it exactly that one can possibly retain consciousness? The "self" isn't some sort of nebulous cloud that hovers above us; it is inseparable from our physical bodies. |
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