Thank you, Sincerely, for a civil and honest reply.  I don't see any necessity for berating one another for not agreeing.  While I can't pretend to understand how you and I could both be correct in our respective paradigms, that's not my problem.  My faith directs me to respect your free will and not to denigrate your decisions:  I am required to see you as every bit the beloved child of GOD which I strive to be.  So I'm not going to yell at you that you're 'deluded', or 'deceived' or 'an unbeliever' because you follow another path.  GOD's told my people that "The righteous of ALL nations shall have a place in the World to Come".  He didn't tell us that they all had to be Jews.

I don't have much time right now, but I'll just mention that the Gen3:15 doesn't imply anything about a 'fallen angel' to us Jews.  Not in 3500 years of continually examining our Scriptures does it suggest anything like that.  In Jewish understanding, the serpent was just a serpent - and 'hasatan' is an angel doing exactly as YHVH has directed.  "Accuser of the brethren" is the ONLY Xian title which begins to approach its true function - something like a DA or a prosecuting attorney.

Genesis is not a book of prophesy  in Judaism:  it's a 'mythic prehistory', would be the closest I can get to it.  There are quite specific requirements for 'prophesy' in Judaism, and obviously Gen 3:15 does not qualify. 

It's getting late for me here:  I'll have to pick this up tomorrow afternoon if I can.

 Leah, we are off topic------and moving farther away.  I'd like to Understand the reasons why the GOD of Sinai and the ONE of Genesis 1:1 aren't the same REAL GOD???? When you say "mythical".

The way these forums are set up , we need another topic thread------The question is who is doing the defending??? It should be on that forum.

Aug 30, 2009 -- 2:40PM, andrewcyrus wrote:

Aug 30, 2009 -- 2:37PM, LeahOne wrote:

Aug 30, 2009 -- 3:47AM, Ben Masada wrote:

Aug 29, 2009 -- 7:41PM, sincerly wrote:

Aug 29, 2009 -- 12:23AM, Ben Masada wrote:

Listen, Ben, that TRUE God of the Chronicles and KINGS, was also, the TRUE GOD of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. That TRUE GOD also, is the GOD of the Remnant who remained Loyal to GOD and Didn't reject the Messiah 2000 years ago. That True God Also acknowledged Daniel as a True Prophet and spoke of him as "greatly Beloved".

 

To claim that we rejected the Messiah, you have first to prove that he was the Messiah and you can't. The Messiah is Isarael according to Isaiah the Prophet.

I'll just confirm that what Ben has posted is indeed the 'unanimous' traditional understanding of the Jewish People through history.  And it makes a whole lot more sense to me than the Christian claims.

But that's why Judaism and Christianity are two different religions. : ))  Since I don't live in a 'zero-sum' universe, I can't assume that 'Judaism is always right compared to Christianity' - it's 'Judaism is always right FOR JEWS'  Since Sincerely & company aren't Jews, there's no problem if they beleive something else. GOD doesn't hold everyone to Israel's standard, only Israel.

 

Ben has posted his own cognitive distortion unsupported by honest judaism.

 

 

What do you know of Judaism?

Sep 1, 2009 -- 1:58PM, sincerly wrote:

 Leah, we are off topic------and moving farther away.  I'd like to Understand the reasons why the GOD of Sinai and the ONE of Genesis 1:1 aren't the same REAL GOD???? When you say "mythical".

The way these forums are set up , we need another topic thread------The question is who is doing the defending??? It should be on that forum.

WOW.  Please try to refrain from putting words in my mouth, Sincerly. It doesn't bode well for any ability to communicate.

Sep 2, 2009 -- 6:13PM, LeahOne wrote:

Sep 1, 2009 -- 1:58PM, sincerly wrote:

 Leah, we are off topic------and moving farther away.  I'd like to Understand the reasons why the GOD of Sinai and the ONE of Genesis 1:1 aren't the same REAL GOD???? When you say "mythical".

The way these forums are set up , we need another topic thread------The question is who is doing the defending??? It should be on that forum.

WOW.  Please try to refrain from putting words in my mouth, Sincerly. It doesn't bode well for any ability to communicate.

Leah, Didn't you write??:"""Genesis is not a book of prophesy  in Judaism:  it's a 'mythic prehistory',"""" I wasn't putting words in your mouth----they were expressed on the page.

The Topic thread is "The 70 week/year prophecy  of Dan.9:24-27".    This is the SDA DEBATE Forum.  Since We defend the Beliefs of the SDA Faith FROM CONTRARY BELIEFS, then if you want to pose/express your "beliefs" in a opposing manner they should be expressed here. However, If you just want to express your Jewish Beliefs the discussion should be on the Judaism forum. -------Per ROC.