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9 years ago  ::  Apr 05, 2009 - 3:52PM #31
Hatman
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Thanks, Jon, a quite cogent and rational explanation, complete with examples.
And of course you're correct that Christ would be a terrible American, just as He would be a terrible German, Rhodesian, or Chinese, as His business is concerned with calling out people from being under those governments, to be under His, and His Father's Kingdom---and ours, too, of course.

I like how the GoT puts it:  "The Kingdom is spread out over all the earth, but men do not see it."

Based on much reading I've done, however, I'd venture to say that "most" men don't see it, but quite a few have, by now.

I also think that Christ would be a patriot, too, but in this vein:

"The first duty of a patriot is to protect His country from the government." (~Samuel Clemens, aka Mark Twain.)

*grin*

Warmest regards-

Hatman
"History records that the moneychangers have used every form of abuse, deceit, intrigue, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and it's issuance."
-- James Madison(1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
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9 years ago  ::  Apr 06, 2009 - 9:48AM #32
warlordofks
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If Jesus were alive today he would say to the majority of Christians " Get thee behind me, Satan. You've taken my message of Love & turned it into a message of hate."

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9 years ago  ::  Apr 06, 2009 - 11:23AM #33
Iwantamotto
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Apr 6, 2009 -- 9:48AM, warlordofks wrote:


If Jesus were alive today he would say to the majority of Christians " Get thee behind me, Satan. You've taken my message of Love & turned it into a message of hate."



Actually, I would kind of hope He'd move past angry rants, as they sure didn't do Him much good the first time.  I would hope that Jesus would assess them not as evil and hateful but as people blind to truth.  I would hope He would focus more on education and role-modeling.  To just retort "you suck" to the hateful people is to do exactly what they do.

Knock and the door shall open.  It's not my fault if you don't like the decor.
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9 years ago  ::  Apr 06, 2009 - 2:57PM #34
natureboy_the0
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The following questions are asked but I do not believe Jesus is coming back to earth, therefore I will say what I would expect from the person who is supposed to manifest as the second advent of the anointed one. 


What kind of man would He be?   A) Isaiah 52:13-15 suggests he will be become a person exalted and made very high, his appearance will be changed more than any man’s and form of living more than the sons of any man.


Where would He live?  I believe he will sleep wherever he chose or was invited to, but he would have no one place to call home.


What would He do for work?  I feel he would only work for the kingdom of heaven and not support the world.


What would He have studied in school?  Since he is to be the prophet like unto Moses, he would study whatever was required of him until he chose to study nature to choose it over civilization (Isaiah 7:14-16)


What would He believe about religion?  He would know Yeshua said the 3 major religions will become completely blown out of proportion of their originators, so he would recognize the scriptures fulfilling themselves.


About politics?  He would recognize the politics in the USA as being in the state where he is supposed to shoulder it (Isaiah 9:6) to bring in world peace (Isaiah 2:2-4) the 666 system will pattern itself after.


About the state of the world economy?  Exactly as it has been prophesied to happen.


About the environment?  Since everything happens time and time again exactly the same way (Ecc. 1:9),  he would recognize it is definitely time for the transition from this material system to the spiritual system (Rev. 21).


How would He be an activist?  Only for the kingdom of heaven on earth.


What would He choose to fight for?  He would chose to fight for his manifestation to end this civilization.  


Or against?  By fighting bring about his manifestation he would have to fight the corruption of the government overturning the money changers, who they are.


And if you went looking for Him, where would you find Him on a Saturday night?  That would depend if he was sleeping on the streets or in someone’s house, and what would be available in the house or on the streets.



 

Are you questioning your beliefs, ask I AM THAT I AM to clarify them!
Elijah Alfred "NatureBoy" Alexander, Jr. presenting SEEDS OF LIFE
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9 years ago  ::  Apr 06, 2009 - 6:04PM #35
jlb32168
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. . . He would be entering Jerusalem in six days.

Victim of this, victim of that, your mama’s too thin and your daddy’s too fat, get over it! - the Eagles
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9 years ago  ::  Apr 12, 2009 - 9:28AM #36
afi1952
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Very good, Ebon... a very nice representation of the modern Jesus... a very nice piece to meditate upon before heading out my door for the day... thanx... MikeyB

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9 years ago  ::  Apr 12, 2009 - 12:35PM #37
Truthbarer
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First of all let me clarify that Jesus is alive today. He may not be here amongst us in the flesh but He promised the Holy Spirit to be with us today. What would he be doing? What he is doing in the heart of believers today, that is, the will of the Father.  Look at what Jesus did while he was here on earth: healing the sick, raising the dead (today the spiritual dead), having compassion on and helping the poor and needy, washing our feet(today serving us  according to our need), and the list goes on; you have the idea, embellish upon it in your own minds. We need to let the Spirit of God have first place in our lives and we will see Change in the world today.

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9 years ago  ::  Apr 13, 2009 - 8:32PM #38
swinter5
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I see Jesus today as a Jewish rabbi, though conservative in his views.  He would be ultra-patriotic, loving, next to God, His country and ALL the people in it.  He would serve a congregation, but I also see him, perhaps, teaching on PBS, enlightening the curious, maybe mainstream, people who would surely like to see the Son of God, and ask Him many questions.  Whether H would reveal Himself as such, would be questionable, though he DID identify Himself to the Twelve in that way.


Would we elect Him to public office?  I think the general public would think he was too evangelistic and conservative to be a Congressman or a Senator.  I don't believe He would make a "spectacle" of Himself; just allow people to "read" into Him what they will.


It would be soooo neat to meet Him, here, right now, and sit at His feet and just listen to his parables and stories.

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9 years ago  ::  Apr 13, 2009 - 9:33PM #39
Xristocharis
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Apr 13, 2009 -- 8:32PM, swinter5 wrote:


I see Jesus today as a Jewish rabbi, though conservative in his views.  He would be ultra-patriotic, loving, next to God, His country and ALL the people in it.  He would serve a congregation, but I also see him, perhaps, teaching on PBS, enlightening the curious, maybe mainstream, people who would surely like to see the Son of God, and ask Him many questions.  Whether H would reveal Himself as such, would be questionable, though he DID identify Himself to the Twelve in that way.


Would we elect Him to public office?  I think the general public would think he was too evangelistic and conservative to be a Congressman or a Senator.  I don't believe He would make a "spectacle" of Himself; just allow people to "read" into Him what they will.


It would be soooo neat to meet Him, here, right now, and sit at His feet and just listen to his parables and stories.




I have four friends I'd like to introduce you to, their names are Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.


-Jon

"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." - Dom Hélder Câmara
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9 years ago  ::  Apr 14, 2009 - 2:30AM #40
Ebon
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Mikey: You're very welcome. Glad you enjoyed it.


Apr 6, 2009 -- 9:48AM, warlordofks wrote:


If Jesus were alive today he would say to the majority of Christians " Get thee behind me, Satan. You've taken my message of Love & turned it into a message of hate."



I think there is a tendancy among Christians, especially those of the militant kind, to view Jesus as pretty much an extension of themselves and therefore, as someone who shares their views on all things. For example, Jesus's opinions on homosexuality are unrecorded so we have no idea if he followed the conventional view of his time or if he was entirely accepting and yet, virtually every modern Christian would be absolutely certain that Jesus condemned homosexuality, not because he did so but because that's the view they hold and therefore, Jesus must have held the same view. One could say the same about the idea that a man who was tortured to death for a crime he didn't commit would endorse the death penalty (at least, without massive safeguards in place). I disagree with the RCC on most things but at least they're consistent on that one. Or the view that Jesus would have been opposed to communism. I think communism is unworkable but Jesus never said word one on the subject and what little he said about economics seems to be proto-socialist.


I suspect it's much the same as the mental process which allows teh more militant fundementalists to insist on a totally literal interpretation until it gets to something they like doing, whereupon it becomes convieniently symbolic. For example, the same people who insist on Biblical literalism will usually insist that Jesus's teaching that one should not pray in public is open to interpretation. It is a human tendancy to think of oneself as right in most things but it reaches it's zenith with the militant fundementalist. Regardless of religion (or lack thereof), the militant fundementalist's creed, far, far above any lip service to their deity, is that they are right and everyone else is wrong.

He who oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God. ~ Proverbs 14:31

Fiat justitia, ruat caelum

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