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4 years ago  ::  Mar 20, 2009 - 12:29AM #11
RayGarton
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Yes, there's a lot of Adventist publishing going on.  They are the only ones who publish that fraud Ellen White.  And they give her books away because no one will buy them.  If you publish mountains of copies of a book nobody wants to read except for one little group (the indoctrinated Adventists), it's kind of silly to point out that there are a lot of copies of that book in print.  Nobody cares.


Amazing Facts -- HA!  More like Amazing Crap.  There's another phony-baloney huckster -- Doug Batchelor!  A total fraud.  What he does is nothing more than showbiz.  He's about as transparent as Wonder Woman's jet.  He can't even hold his own family together -- and it's an extremely dysfunctional one, too.  He's been married twice, and his son is so repulsed by his phony, money-hungry father that he put as much distance between them as he could.  More Seventh-day Adventist cult lies.

With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
-- Steve Weinberg
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4 years ago  ::  Mar 20, 2009 - 10:23PM #12
andrewcyrus
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Ray,


My drink tonite?


Just another swig of God's word expounded on beautifully by his prophetess Ellen White;


Yep thirst quenched!


"I am the bread of life: he that cometh to Me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on Me shall never thirst." Revelation 3:20; John 6:35.


" The words of God are the wellsprings of life. As you seek unto those living springs you will, through the Holy Spirit, be brought into communion with Christ. Familiar truths will present themselves to your mind in a new aspect, texts of Scripture will burst upon you with a new meaning as a flash of light, you will see the relation of other truths to the work of redemption, and you will know that Christ is leading you, a divine Teacher is at your side.


Jesus said, "The water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life." John 4:14. As the Holy Spirit opens to you the truth you will treasure up the most precious experiences and will long to speak to others of the comforting things that have been revealed to you. When brought into association with them you will communicate some fresh thought in regard to the character or the work of Christ. You will have some fresh revelation of His pitying love to impart to those who love Him and to those who love Him not.


"Give, and it shall be given unto you" (Luke 6: 38); for the word of God is "a fountain of gardens, a well of living waters, and streams of Lebanon" (Song of Solomon 4:15). The heart that has once tasted the love of Christ, cries out continually for a deeper draft, and as you impart you will receive in richer and more abundant measure. Every revelation of God to the soul increases the capacity to know and to love. "


http://www.egwtext.whiteestate.org/mb/mb2.html

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4 years ago  ::  Mar 21, 2009 - 2:34PM #13
Jargon631
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if e.g. white is gods prophet then how come no other faith quotes her?...at the academy we had huge doses of her forced down our throats in addition to the bible...its funny how our bible teachers would get that worshipful gleam in their eyes when they said her name...creepy...btw...isnt the use of extra-biblical sources to set doctrinal policy one of the signs of a cult?...fd

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4 years ago  ::  Mar 21, 2009 - 3:09PM #14
RayGarton
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Yes, it is, Jargon.  Look at any list of the characteristics of a religious cult from any anti-cult organization, and you'll find that Seventh-day Adventism matches virtually all of them.

With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
-- Steve Weinberg
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4 years ago  ::  Mar 22, 2009 - 3:57PM #15
andrewcyrus
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 Prophecy and the Darwinian in agreement


Ellen White God's prophetess was given this light hundred years ago.


 


TIME OF TROUBLE


"Their affliction is great, the flames of the furnace seem about to consume them; but the Refiner will bring them forth as gold tried in the fire. God's love for His children during the period of their severest trial is as strong and tender as in the days of their sunniest prosperity; but it is needful for them to be placed in the furnace of fire; their earthliness must be consumed, that the image of Christ may be perfectly reflected." Egw THE Great Controversy


http://www.egwtext.whiteestate.org/gc/gc39.html


"As time goes by, we can expect that methane will make more and more of a contribution to what may become not mere global warming but global scorching. But at some unpredictable "tipping point," the accelerating release may become overwhelming.


And finally, it appears that the combined heating from all of these systems releasing carbon, will likely be enough to release massive amounts of methane from the oceanic methane hydrates. These oceanic methane hydrates contain something above 5 trillion tons of carbon in the form of methane, a greenhouse gas on the order of 20 times worse than CO2, over short timescales.


Once this cascade of events is initiated, even an emergency effort to put carbon back underground using carbon negative energy is likely to be overwhelmed.


The end result could be the extinction of all life on earth."


http://www.smirkingchimp.com/news/20852


Dan Dorritie - an Darwinian Evolutionist


"Regarding global warming -- based on the evidence -- the vast majority of climate scientists are in agreement about three things:
(1) global warming is real, and will continue to increase,
(2) most global warming is due to human activity, specifically the burning of carbon fuels, particularly fossil fuels (carbon fuels include wood, peat, and charcoal in addition to the fossil fuels: oil, natural gas, and coal), and
(3) as global warming continues, it will have increasingly adverse effects on human beings, our environment, our fellow creatures, and the global economy"


http://www.killerinourmidst.com/now.html


 


In the plague that follows, power is given to the sun "to scorch men with fire. And men were scorched with great heat." Verses 8, 9. The prophets thus describe the condition of the earth at this fearful time: "The land mourneth; . . . because the harvest of the field is perished. . . . All the trees of the field are withered: because joy is withered away from the sons of men." "The seed is rotten under their clods, the garners are laid desolate. . . . How do the beasts groan! the herds of cattle are perplexed, because they have no pasture. . . . The rivers of water are dried up, and the fire hath devoured the pastures of the wilderness." "The songs of the temple shall be howlings in that day, saith the Lord God: there shall be many dead bodies in every place; they shall cast them forth with silence." Joel 1:10-12, 17-20; Amos 8:3.


These plagues are not universal, or the inhabitants of the earth would be wholly cut off.


http://www.egwtext.whiteestate.org/gc/gc39.html

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4 years ago  ::  Mar 22, 2009 - 4:31PM #16
andrewcyrus
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Mar 21, 2009 -- 2:34PM, Jargon631 wrote:


if e.g. white is gods prophet then how come no other faith quotes her?...at the academy we had huge doses of her forced down our throats in addition to the bible...its funny how our bible teachers would get that worshipful gleam in their eyes when they said her name...creepy...btw...isnt the use of extra-biblical sources to set doctrinal policy one of the signs of a cult?...fd




Great question most sunday keeping churches will keep her quiet else their flock decides to leave and worship on the true sabbath day.

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4 years ago  ::  Mar 22, 2009 - 6:44PM #17
RayGarton
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You don't read my posts, do you, Andrew.  I'll type this slowly, maybe that will help:


I DON'T HAVE TO INVESTIGATE ANY OF THAT STUFF, ANDREW.  I ALREADY KNOW IT ALL.  I WAS INDOCTRINATED IN THE CULT JUST LIKE YOU.  THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET OUT.  THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CULT NEVER EVER CHANGES.  THERE IS NO NEW "PROOF" AND THE "PROOF" THAT EXISTS IS NONSENSE.  I DON'T NEED TO INVESTIGATE ANY OF THE LIES YOU'RE PERPETUATING.  AND YES, YOU'RE RIGHT, I DO HAVE CONTEMPT FOR THE PROPAGANDA YOU'RE TRYING TO SPREAD -- THAT'S ALL IT DESERVES.  I'M AWAKE NOW AND LIVING IN THE REAL WORLD.  YOU'RE WELCOME OUT HERE, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU -- BUT I DON'T SEE THAT EVER HAPPENING.

With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
-- Steve Weinberg
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4 years ago  ::  Mar 23, 2009 - 3:07PM #18
Jargon631
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Mar 22, 2009 -- 4:31PM, andrewcyrus wrote:


Mar 21, 2009 -- 2:34PM, Jargon631 wrote:


if e.g. white is gods prophet then how come no other faith quotes her?...at the academy we had huge doses of her forced down our throats in addition to the bible...its funny how our bible teachers would get that worshipful gleam in their eyes when they said her name...creepy...btw...isnt the use of extra-biblical sources to set doctrinal policy one of the signs of a cult?...fd




Great question most sunday keeping churches will keep her quiet else their flock decides to leave and worship on the true sabbath day.




 


or...they dont find her to be a true prophet any more than i do...sunday or saturday...it really doesnt matter...fd

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4 years ago  ::  Mar 23, 2009 - 5:24PM #19
Aveverumcorpus
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Paul Harvey, now that's a laugh!


Nutjob is right.  Call me when you get to Jesus Camp, Andy. 

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4 years ago  ::  Mar 23, 2009 - 8:25PM #20
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Mar 22, 2009 -- 6:44PM, RayGarton wrote:


You don't read my posts, do you, Andrew.  I'll type this slowly, maybe that will help:


I DON'T HAVE TO INVESTIGATE ANY OF THAT STUFF, ANDREW.  I ALREADY KNOW IT ALL.  I WAS INDOCTRINATED IN THE CULT JUST LIKE YOU.  THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET OUT.  THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CULT NEVER EVER CHANGES.  THERE IS NO NEW "PROOF" AND THE "PROOF" THAT EXISTS IS NONSENSE.  I DON'T NEED TO INVESTIGATE ANY OF THE LIES YOU'RE PERPETUATING.  AND YES, YOU'RE RIGHT, I DO HAVE CONTEMPT FOR THE PROPAGANDA YOU'RE TRYING TO SPREAD -- THAT'S ALL IT DESERVES.  I'M AWAKE NOW AND LIVING IN THE REAL WORLD.  YOU'RE WELCOME OUT HERE, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU -- BUT I DON'T SEE THAT EVER HAPPENING.




Discerner: Ray, your statement 'I DON'T HAVE TO INVESTIGATE ANY OF THAT STUFF, ANDREW.  I ALREADY KNOW IT ALL' says it all. No need to respond.


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