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7 years ago  ::  Jan 29, 2008 - 8:11AM #11
silence_speaks
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Hi jm,
      :) Hare Krishna!
Path are useless, not teaching ! The teaching is not to show a new path !
Now, the problem is...
Path means a journey ... (start , end). Now... what happens is, the End is Infinity... each step is finite. Basic maths says u will take infinite steps therefore!
You keep going....
each step , a new experience ... but finite, transitory
and eventually hope to find the infinite experience!

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7 years ago  ::  Jan 29, 2008 - 8:14AM #12
silence_speaks
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Also jm,
     :) You will not be able to support it by shastras ... coz when in bhagavad gita Krishna says "Karma Yogaena ", you take it to mean the "Path of Karma". Note that he did not say Karma Margena... he said Karma yogena...
Yes ... u can decide to manipulate it by calling it a path!

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6 years ago  ::  Jan 30, 2008 - 6:32AM #13
Jm8
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Silence,

this just is a mumbo jumbo. Find what patha or marga means.

http://vedabase.net/sb/3/4/20/en

http://vedabase.net/sb/3/15/45/en

http://vedabase.net/sb/3/20/1/en

http://vedabase.net/sb/3/21/34/en

http://vedabase.net/sb/3/25/26/en

etc.

Jiva is not infinite, only the Lord is so her experience is never infinite, even in a liberated state.

Hope this helps. Hare Krishna

"This Krishna Consciousness is a science to understand what is the difference between a dead body and a living body". (A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada)

Your servant, bh. Jan

http://www.vrindavan-dham.com
http://www.veda.harekrsna.cz
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6 years ago  ::  Jan 31, 2008 - 4:07AM #14
silence_speaks
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Hi jm,
       :) Why is it mumbo jumbo ? Why do you think Krishna did not use the word Margah in this context ?

You think Margah should have been a correct word here, dont you ?

Why are you giving me other links? why not something in Gita itself ?

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6 years ago  ::  Feb 01, 2008 - 6:51AM #15
Jm8
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Silence,

what I think is not important; what Krishna says is. Words 'marga' and 'patha' are not used in BG. That doesn't mean they don't exist. BG is 'Vedas in a nutshell'.

Bh.P. starts where BG ends, that's why.

Hope this helps. Hare Krishna

"This Krishna Consciousness is a science to understand what is the difference between a dead body and a living body". (A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada)

Your servant, bh. Jan

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6 years ago  ::  Feb 05, 2008 - 8:54AM #16
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[QUOTE=gangajal;246984]There is no dispute between science and Hindu dharma. Most Hindus will have no problem with evolution and Big Bang theory.[/QUOTE]

Dear all,

Don't make a sweeping statement that Hindu understanding of Evolution and that of Scientific Theories are the same. The scientific theories talks about physical evolution that means the progression or transformation of the physical body from lower life forms to higher life forms.

Whereas, the Hindu perception of evolution is talking about the evolution of the Spiritual Self (the Athman). Here the Athman (the Self), takes the lowers life form when it first descends into the lower worlds, and then as the consciousness expends, it evolves into a higher life forms and ultimately takes the human birth. This evolution of the Self does not stops here, it still has to evolve until it realizes its real Self and ultimately realize the Ultimate Reality (Param Brahm). What we fail to note is all Hindu spiritual traditions is indeed talking about this same evolution.

The Hindu viewpoint takes into consideration, the Athman, Reincarnation and the Conciousness, when dealt with the concept of evolution.

Hindu sastras, do not talk about physical evolution! When Brahma created the lower three worlds, the creation is complete. There were 84 lakhs species created by Brahma. This is accounted in all Hindu tradition.

The conflict about the interpretation of Hindu evolution or creation only arise when we start to rationalize it with the scientific evolution theories that are not scientifically sound in many aspects.

Please don't mix them or try to appropriate one with the another. The Hindu creation concept and the devolution and evolution of the Athman is very vast and profound that begins its account of creation from Kala or Time itself.

It talks about Brahma, Day of Brahman, Yuga, Manu, Manvantara, Kalpa, Pralaya, Different lavels of creation, etc. that cannot be rationalized using the current simplistic scientific theories!
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