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Flag lulu2 February 14, 2012 8:55 AM EST
I am someone who seems to not like anything I see as commerically being forced on me. I guess I can say that very same thing with the Commerce Clause..

What if anything does Valentines Day mean in your house, life ,or world? 
Flag Fodaoson February 14, 2012 9:46 AM EST

Feb 14, 2012 -- 8:55AM, lulu2 wrote:

I am someone who seems to not like anything I see as commerically being forced on me. I guess I can say that very same thing with the Commerce Clause..

What if anything does Valentines Day mean in your house, life ,or world? 


As an empty shell, I would say that Valentine’s   day is  day to tell people in our life that they have meaning to us.  For those close to us it  day to express our love in a formal special way .   


No one forces “commercialism” on anyone, If you do not think there  should be valentine  cards , do not buy and give them.    Give an hand written or home computer generated note to someone  special .  


Flag arielg February 14, 2012 10:27 AM EST

No one forces “commercialism” on anyone, If you do not think there  should be valentine  cards , do not buy and give them.    Give an hand written or home computer generated note to someone  special .


It is not that simple. There are certain unwritten rules in society that you disregard at your peril. Do you want to become a cardmungeon or a weirdo at the eyes of your people? If you want to be involved in society, you play the game.


  We can complain and point out  how stupid  the sheeplike actions and commercialism  has gotten, but then we go out and buy the chocolates and the flowers.

Flag lulu2 February 14, 2012 10:45 AM EST

Funny that you might have thought I'd need someone to tell me that! I have never celebrated Valentines ,in all my life! Always felt it was women forcing men into showing them how much they loved them..More "man"-ipulation than out of an act of spontaneous love. I guess I prefer my acts of love from the heart more than from stimulating the economy.


Sorry about your shell being empty.. who knows Obama might find a new way of stimulating you with his hope and change? He does believe that Government is GOD.

Flag TemplarS February 14, 2012 11:02 AM EST

Do you want to talk about Valentine's Day or Obama?


For the record: I've been married 25 years, enjoy doing nice things for the wife.  I do not feel obligated to buy anything; a nice romantic dinner at home will suffice. Especially since  this is the first time in  20 years we have the house to ourselves on Valentine's Day!


 


 

Flag Svetlana February 14, 2012 11:03 AM EST

I have always hated it, although I have spent almost my entire adult life in a loving relationship.  It's MANDATORY affection, and the culture surrounding it is the message, to men only, "You'd better spend a LOT on her, or else."  (I even heard a commercial, saying exactly that, on the radio the other day.)  I have always known that those who love me, do love me, and they didn't need to give me gifts on the day on which it's mandatory to do so.  The whole idea is revolting.


I'm all about genuine signs of affection, on Valentine's Day and any other day, it's the cultural demand that expensive gifts must be given that makes me ill.  I think the private, individual celebrations of this day are wonderful, it's the commercial push that is sick-making.

Flag Roodog February 14, 2012 11:05 AM EST

The St. Faustus' Day Chocolate Sale on February 15th!Tongue Out

Flag Ken February 14, 2012 11:13 AM EST

Feb 14, 2012 -- 8:55AM, lulu2 wrote:


What if anything does Valentines Day mean in your house, life ,or world? 


Nothing. Most years it escapes my attention entirely.

Flag lulu2 February 14, 2012 11:17 AM EST

Guess Im with stvetlana, roodog and ken on this one

Flag Ironhold February 14, 2012 11:29 AM EST

Haven't had a date since 2005.


Thanks to the economy forcing me into a much lower-paying, less-prestigious job, I'll probably never have a date again since I don't have wads of cash to be flashing around.

Flag Rgurley4 February 14, 2012 11:52 AM EST

HAPPY SAINT VALENTINE'S DAY !


Saint Valentine's Day...


February 14th is St. Valentine's Day.
Every year on this day, human love (eros + philos?) is celebrated across the world...(but not agape'?)


The TRADITION originated in Rome in the 5th century as a tribute to St. Valentine,
a Catholic bishop who was beheaded by Emperor Claudius on ~February 14, 270 A.D.
The story goes that the Emperor banned marriage in his empire and
put Valentine to his death when he found out that the priest was secretly marrying young people.


Originally, the day was marked by sending poems and gifts (such as flowers)
but it became quite commercialized as early as the 1800's.


Today, Valentine symbols include Cupid (seraphim + cherabim?), flowers, chocolates and hearts.


C'mon guys and gals...get in the loving spirit and mood!

Flag drawout February 14, 2012 11:59 AM EST

Feb 14, 2012 -- 11:29AM, Ironhold wrote:


Haven't had a date since 2005.


Thanks to the economy forcing me into a much lower-paying, less-prestigious job, I'll probably never have a date again since I don't have wads of cash to be flashing around.




Dont give up. Not only do I work at a sewage treatment plant,I am also hideously ugly. My wife asked me out because she heard I was easy and kinkier than a cheap garden hose.


I treat my wife like its valentines day every day. I cook delicous meals and play Jazz albums (vinyl) by candle light during dinner. She says its like starring in a chick flick every night.

Flag jane2 February 14, 2012 12:17 PM EST

Feb 14, 2012 -- 11:05AM, Roodog wrote:


The St. Faustus' Day Chocolate Sale on February 15th!Tongue Out




Roo


The last 2 or 3 years my husband was alive we had  running joke. He would deliberately buy the flowers and chocolates on the day after Valentine's Day. We both thought it was hilarious. We were married for 40 years.

Flag mecdukebec February 14, 2012 12:34 PM EST

Feb 14, 2012 -- 11:29AM, Ironhold wrote:


Haven't had a date since 2005.


Thanks to the economy forcing me into a much lower-paying, less-prestigious job, I'll probably never have a date again since I don't have wads of cash to be flashing around.





A simple love sonnet, a bottle of wine, French bread, and a place amongst the bluebonnets;  nothing to cost "wads of cash." 

Flag Fodaoson February 14, 2012 1:34 PM EST

LuLu2 :I was commenting on you signature “Without the Soul of Christ alive in us...we are nothing but empty shells” I find life very full without the burden of religious doctrines that counters reason . Obama does not believe Government is God. I find that many posters let their politics and their dislike (?) of Obama deprive them of rationality

Flag BDboy February 14, 2012 1:42 PM EST

 


Buy or cook food for her. Going to get some sweets for her and do whatever she wanted to in last two months but was not able to do. So I try to remember what she wanted..


Works nicely for me. Also try to spend as much time I can and she likes that. :-)

Flag mytmouse57 February 14, 2012 2:08 PM EST

Feb 14, 2012 -- 11:29AM, Ironhold wrote:


Haven't had a date since 2005.


Thanks to the economy forcing me into a much lower-paying, less-prestigious job, I'll probably never have a date again since I don't have wads of cash to be flashing around.




Listen to an older guy who has been around a bit, and know this to be true:


Women for whom those things are that important aren't worth your time to begin with.


I love what I do, and I'm good at it.


But I've never cracked the $30K a year barrier with my salary.


And I am married to an extremely intelligent, beautiful, sexy, caring, strong, brave, patient, kind, passionate, fascinating, trustworthy, honest-to-god woman -- who is better than I deserve. I am, without a doubt, the luckiest sonofabitch that I know.


Don't give up. 

Flag Ken February 14, 2012 2:51 PM EST

Feb 14, 2012 -- 11:52AM, Rgurley4 wrote:


HAPPY SAINT VALENTINE'S DAY !


Saint Valentine's Day...


February 14th is St. Valentine's Day.
Every year on this day, human love (eros + philos?) is celebrated across the world...(but not agape'?)


The TRADITION originated in Rome in the 5th century as a tribute to St. Valentine,
a Catholic bishop who was beheaded by Emperor Claudius on ~February 14, 270 A.D.
The story goes that the Emperor banned marriage in his empire and
put Valentine to his death when he found out that the priest was secretly marrying young people.



St. Valentine's Day - the feast day of several martyrs named Valentinus - was not associated with love until the late fourteenth century. In 1382, the English poet Geoffrey Chaucer wrote a poem to celebrate the first anniversary of the engagement of Richard II to Anne of Bohemia. The engagement had taken place on May 2, 1381 - the feast of St. Valentinus of Genoa - and Chaucer invented the pretty idea that this was the day when birds choose their mates. This idea was picked up by several other poets, transferred to the more familiar Valentine's Day on February 14, and by 1400 had become popular in aristocratic circles. Ladies would receive love poems from their admirers, and "High Courts of Love" were held.

Flag Erey February 14, 2012 3:36 PM EST

I see Valentines Day as an opportunity to do something nice for a few people around me.


If it is stressfull for you to buy a card, fix some dinner or grab some flowers then don't do it.  But maybe you can think of some effort for your beloveds that won't stress you too much?


Some people enjoy and can afford grand displays and others need to go for some more heart-felt or homeade gestures (which can be fantastic).  There is no sin in choosing to NOT spend money to purchase things you can't afford, however I do believe it is a sin to let an opportunity go by (esp a obvious, blatant opportunity) to do some nice thing for the one you love. 


What I have noticed is the people who say they resent the idea that there is a holiday to celebrate and show love are the people that really don't go for any romantic or generous gestures the rest of the year either. 



Today I got up a bit early and fixed a nice Bfast for the household, chocolate chip pancakes, bacon and strawberries.  Everyone got a little bag of chocolates and a small gift (in the 20 dollar range).  I then went and joined one of my best friends for coffee and breakfast at a cute cafe.  When I got back home my husband had left flowers for me (I think the cost was about 25 dollars for the bunch)


No stress, just a bit of planning for me.  I also put a special treat in the kids lunches. 



However if we were really lean on money I would have just made breakfast and maybe a dessert for dinner tonight and left it at that. 

Flag Girlchristian February 14, 2012 5:47 PM EST

I think it means something different for everyone. This year, I'm officially seven months pregnant today so it's about more than just my husband and I. I'm also on day six of a really bad cold so I'm not able to fix the romantic dinner for us as I had planned. My husband is picking up takeout on his way home. I bought him two cards--a funny one and a mushy one and I got him some of his favorite candy, which is all I had the time to do because I got sick. We'll watch something on TV and then he'll nag me about going to bed early so that I can get better. It's really just a day, but it's whatever you want it to be.


Ironhold, I agree with Mytmouse, if a woman won't be with you because of a lack of money then she's not a woman and she's not worth the effort.

Flag jane2 February 14, 2012 6:49 PM EST

Most Valentine's days my husband would fix a dinner of bright red steamed lobsters--our favorite "fruit". He did the melted butter, too.


 

Flag Svetlana February 14, 2012 7:51 PM EST

Feb 14, 2012 -- 11:13AM, Ken wrote:


Feb 14, 2012 -- 8:55AM, lulu2 wrote:


What if anything does Valentines Day mean in your house, life ,or world? 


Nothing. Most years it escapes my attention entirely.



How in the world do you manage to avoid all that PINK all over the place?????  Maybe it's appropriate that the setting for all the sugary goop is the color of Pepto-Bismal.  Yech.

Flag Stardove February 14, 2012 7:53 PM EST

Moved from the Hot Topic Zone. 


Happy Valentine's Day to one and all.

Flag Svetlana February 14, 2012 7:56 PM EST

Feb 14, 2012 -- 2:08PM, mytmouse57 wrote:


Feb 14, 2012 -- 11:29AM, Ironhold wrote:


Haven't had a date since 2005.


Thanks to the economy forcing me into a much lower-paying, less-prestigious job, I'll probably never have a date again since I don't have wads of cash to be flashing around.




Listen to an older guy who has been around a bit, and know this to be true:


Women for whom those things are that important aren't worth your time to begin with.


I love what I do, and I'm good at it.


But I've never cracked the $30K a year barrier with my salary.


And I am married to an extremely intelligent, beautiful, sexy, caring, strong, brave, patient, kind, passionate, fascinating, trustworthy, honest-to-god woman -- who is better than I deserve. I am, without a doubt, the luckiest sonofabitch that I know.


Don't give up. 



Exactly, Iron.  You, yourself, all by yourself, are worth the love of a good woman, and you will have that love one day.  Any woman who needs you to have ANY cash is beneath you.  Pity her and walk away.  

Flag Iwantamotto February 14, 2012 8:02 PM EST

It means a day of politely taking the cards and the flowers and the candy.  I get the sniffles with flowers, I despise candy with every fiber of my being, and I'm single.  It's not that I gave up (haven't been on a date since High School and I'm 34).  I just like being single nowadays.  When my family passes away or moves away, I'll take on someone else.  Otherwise, my schedule's filled up.


I don't resent the holiday.  It's not like I buy the snarky anti-Valentine's stuff.  I just feel so awkward when I'm lumped into the same group of lovey-doveys.  I'm glad y'all have relationships.  I don't have one and don't feel a pressing need to.

Flag Bouncybaby February 15, 2012 8:58 AM EST

It's just another day. We really never did celebrate Valentine's Day and I don't know anyone who really does.  But I believe it's just another way for stores to make money.  

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