| 1 year ago :: May 03, 2012 - 6:07PM #181 | |
It's not baffling. It's merely tradition. People sometimes have trouble breaking from tradition. In my religion, the metaphor is sometimes used of a mirror reflecting or manifesting the light of the sun, so to speak. I think there's a passage that speaks of the "dust of aquired knowledge" sometimes obscuring the mirror. Makes sense to me. |
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| 1 year ago :: May 03, 2012 - 6:48PM #182 | |
J'Carlin
If the shoe doesn't fit, don't cram your foot in it and complain. |
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| 1 year ago :: May 03, 2012 - 11:05PM #183 | |
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Howdy Today was the National Day of Prayer. What did this Atheist do today? www.meetup.com/atheists-24/events/623735...
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| 1 year ago :: May 03, 2012 - 11:20PM #184 | |
Not waste any time praying. |
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| 1 year ago :: May 06, 2012 - 11:35AM #185 | |
This needed to rescued from the garbage thread as it is one of the best discussions of how morality follows from atheism. Well done, cptspith!
J'Carlin
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| 1 year ago :: May 06, 2012 - 2:19PM #186 | |
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What follows from being an atheist is that an atheist cannot believe that the source of ethics-morality is from god. What follows from being an atheist is that neither the Bible nor the Quran are the word of god. What also follows from being an atheist is that there are no messengers of god.
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| 1 year ago :: May 07, 2012 - 10:00PM #187 | |
What profound implications these statements have. |
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| 1 year ago :: May 07, 2012 - 10:13PM #188 | |
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| 1 year ago :: May 07, 2012 - 10:45PM #189 | |
Dave - Just a Man in the Mountains.
I am a Humanist. I believe in a rational philosophy of life, informed by science, inspired by art, and motivated by a desire to do good for its own sake and not by an expectation of a reward or fear of punishment in an afterlife. |
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| 1 year ago :: May 08, 2012 - 11:02AM #190 | |
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I would also add that what follows for me being an atheist is the lack of a belief in a god or gods. THAT'S IT! Despite common stereotypes, atheists are not neccessarily ant-religious, nor do the "worship" themselves instead of a god. Also atheists don't "hate god"-it is impossible to hate something if you don't believe it exists. Atheism indicates what someone does not believe, but it says nothing about what one does believe. For that other terms like scientific naturalists, philosophical naturalist, secular humanist or even Pastafarian can connote the rejection of religion while also defining the substance of an individual's personal philosophy or worldview.
In addition what follows for me in being an atheist is that I am Secular. On paper "secular" simply means that something dosen't have anything to to with religion-it does not mean opposition to religion. But when we talk about "secularism" as a social movement, we're talking about working to keep faith-based ideas,superstition,and religious ideology out of public life. This does not neccessarily mean evangelizing for atheism, but it does mean reocoginizing that people's rights are best protected, government is most fair and policy is best formed when religion and myth are not in the picture. Instead, secularist want a public policy best on facts, science and reason. A person can be religious and still believe that secularism is the most fair andequal approach to government because it guarantees religious freedoms for all, favoring no one religion of another-or over non-belief. What follows for me being an atheist and a secularist is being a secular humanist. Secular humanism for me is a non-religous worldview rooted in scienific naturalism, naturalist philosophy and humanist ethics. Secular humanist promote universal values, such as integrity, benevolence, fairness, and responsibilty, and we believe that with reason, an open marketplace of ideas, good will and tolerance, progress can be made towards building a better world for ourselves and futrure generations. What also follows for me in being an atheist is Freethought. Freethought is a way of thinking an problem solving that is free from appeals to tradition, authority or dogma. Freethinkers base their opinions on facts, evidence and reason. Modern free thought traces back to the Enlightment and most often refers to people who are not religious because there is insufficent evidence to support religious or supernatural claims. Some of history's greatest reformers were freethinkiners-Thomas Paine, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Margret Sanger and A. Phillip Randolph because freethought allows people ti be free froom the limiting effects of traditions that typically regard conformity and compliaince as more important than free expression and free inguiry. What also follows for me being an Atheist, Secularist,and Freethinker is being a Skeptic. Skepticism is a provisional approach to claims. It is the application of reason to any and all ideas — no sacred cows allowed. In other words, skepticism is a method, not a position. Ideally, skeptics do not go into an investigation closed to the possibility that a phenomenon might be real or that a claim might be true. When we say we are “skeptical,” we mean that we must see compelling evidence before we believe. What also follows for me has an atheist is to put very little "faith" in "faith". So far as I can see the difference between "faith" and "BLIND faith" is a distinction with little if any signifanct difference. It is the difference between being blind and blinder. Here is an interesting link www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?i... Losing Your Religion: Analytic Thinking Can Undermine Belief Quoting in part: People who are intuitive thinkers are more likely to be religious, but getting them to think analytically even in subtle ways decreases the strength of their belief, according to a new study in Science.
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