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3 years ago  ::  Apr 20, 2012 - 4:16PM #51
mountain_man
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Apr 20, 2012 -- 1:33PM, mainecaptain wrote:

Being an atheist and not believing in abortion actually makes sense. If you don't believe there are any gods or a soul and an possible after life. Then it makes sense.


That's right. Atheists, in general, respect life and a fetus represents a potential life and as such deserves some respect. However, that respect for a potential cannot take precedence over a life that is already here. It is wrong to force a woman to continue a pregnancy against her will.


I am always stunned that believers, in a god, (particularly Christians)  in souls and after life are against abortion, since they should believe the soul goes to heaven, or is reborn in another body. A believer, particularly  Christians should have no problem with abortion based on that.


Their beliefs don't go that deep. It is popular among christians to be pro birth. After the kid is born they really don't care what happens.


After all in the opinion of a Christian, no life is lost,  The souls  would instantly go to heaven to be with their Jesus, At least if they really believed what they claim to believe . Which I sincerely doubt they really do. That  is why certain types of believers come and harangue atheists.   IMNSHO.


We scare them by not being under their control.

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 20, 2012 - 4:17PM #52
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Apr 20, 2012 -- 2:02PM, mytmouse57 wrote:

In other words, thinking God does not exist.


Wrong, again. But thanks for sharing your opinion.

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 20, 2012 - 4:22PM #53
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Apr 20, 2012 -- 1:20PM, Sparky_Spotty wrote:

...I guess my point is, ones position on the existence of God can affect ones world view, but not in any necessarily consistent way.


Good point. If Atheism does as some claim then all Atheists would think alike.  There are many things that form our world views. Lack of belief in gods is a minor part IF it were to play any part at all.

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 20, 2012 - 7:29PM #54
Blü
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Ken



Why do we have to start a thread every five minutes about what atheism is? It becomes tiresome.


Because so many of our visitors want to talk about it.  And so many of the others need to have it explained.


It's one of those facts of life.

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 20, 2012 - 7:40PM #55
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Apr 20, 2012 -- 7:29PM, Blü wrote:


Ken



Why do we have to start a thread every five minutes about what atheism is? It becomes tiresome.


Because so many of our visitors want to talk about it.  And so many of the others need to have it explained.


It's one of those facts of life.




Mea culpa. I get tired of these theist weasels waltzing in here and telling us what we believe and don't believe in.

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 20, 2012 - 8:40PM #56
Ken
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They could try researching it a little before they post here.

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 20, 2012 - 8:43PM #57
farragut
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Wouldn't it be nice if someone had the time to screen thru all these threads and compile the FAQs along with the very thorough answers that have been provided to them. Then we just feed them to all the new trolls and lurkers.

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 20, 2012 - 11:00PM #58
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Apr 20, 2012 -- 8:40PM, Ken wrote:

They could try researching it a little before they post here.


You're asking a bit much aren't you? The few believers that have done their research are the ones here that, while not Atheists, are our ardent defenders. The rest come here solely to excoriate us, not to learn about anything. Have you noticed that not one of them has learned anything from posting here?

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 20, 2012 - 11:50PM #59
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I have observed that there is a LOT of "Excoriation-rather-than-Mutual-Learning" in these "Discussions" ... IMHO this happens often at least in Part because we often tend to "talk past each other" because we are NOT "speaking the same Language" ...


Apr 20, 2012 -- 11:00PM, mountain_man wrote:


Apr 20, 2012 -- 8:40PM, Ken wrote:

They could try researching it a little before they post here.


You're asking a bit much aren't you? The few believers that have done their research are the ones here that, while not Atheists, are our ardent defenders. The rest come here solely to excoriate us, not to learn about anything. Have you noticed that not one of them has learned anything from posting here?





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2 years ago  ::  Apr 21, 2012 - 12:02AM #60
Blü
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Dave


Have you noticed that not one of them has learned anything from posting here?


I dare say they go home and say, I TOLD 'em about Jesus, really I did, but they wouldn't listen!


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